Fleetwood Evolution Off Road Pop Up

jerdog53

Explorer
SOCALFJ said:
I like it!

How much does it weigh?


This is where I have the most concern about one of these, I have an 05 LJ Ruby and even the smallest unit I believe is too heavy to be towed behind the LJ.
 

Haggis

Appalachian Ridgerunner
Thanks guys. This thing didn't sit in the side yard for a single evening and had two guys wanting to know if it was for sale. LOL. jerdog, I backed up my LJ to show you size comparison between the two so you have some idea of the size of the trailer. This the the E1 model, the smallest of the Evolution models. I don't have a trailer hitch on the LJ yet, so I couldn't hook it up for you. Though a hitch and some coil air bags are in the works. The trailer weighs in at 1580#s and can load up to 3500. I wanted a trailer I could haul with both rigs, but having never towed with any of my Jeeps I'm not so sure how the LJ will do. It was to good of a deal to pass up so it will have to do. We'll try it with the LJ and find out if it's got enough *ss to tow it.
 

jerdog53

Explorer
Haggis said:
Thanks guys. This thing didn't sit in the side yard for a single evening and had two guys wanting to know if it was for sale. LOL. jerdog, I backed up my LJ to show you size comparison between the two so you have some idea of the size of the trailer. This the the E1 model, the smallest of the Evolution models. I don't have a trailer hitch on the LJ yet, so I couldn't hook it up for you. Though a hitch and some coil air bags are in the works. The trailer weighs in at 1580#s and can load up to 3500. I wanted a trailer I could haul with both rigs, but having never towed with any of my Jeeps I'm not so sure how the LJ will do. It was to good of a deal to pass up so it will have to do. We'll try it with the LJ and find out if it's got enough *ss to tow it.

Is your LJ an auto or not? I see that it is not a Ruby so 3:73 gears on stock tire size of 30"? As you will know all that will play a factor, does it have trailer brakes? Once you get 3500# loaded behind that LJ may be hard pressed to stop short without it.
 

Haggis

Appalachian Ridgerunner
My LJ is an auto and the previous owner swapped in 4:10s (before he found another Defender 90 to go play with); the tires are 31s for now but I'm not planning on going taller than 32s. I'm not really planning on using the Jeep to tow the trailer, but when I put the lift in I'm going to make provisions for towing mainly for my business (air compressors and what not). The trailer is equiped with electric brakes and I'm going to buy another brake controller for the Jeep. But the Ram will be the primary towing force and it will handle that yurt with aplomb.
 

Clutch

<---Pass
Sweet trailer...I looked at them. I didn't think my Tacoma would pull it very well...being loaded down with gear and dirt bikes.

Can't wait to hear your camp report on it.
 

jerdog53

Explorer
Haggis said:
My LJ is an auto and the previous owner swapped in 4:10s (before he found another Defender 90 to go play with); the tires are 31s for now but I'm not planning on going taller than 32s. I'm not really planning on using the Jeep to tow the trailer, but when I put the lift in I'm going to make provisions for towing mainly for my business (air compressors and what not). The trailer is equiped with electric brakes and I'm going to buy another brake controller for the Jeep. But the Ram will be the primary towing force and it will handle that yurt with aplomb.

Thanks for the response, I am trying to put it in perspective to my Ruby and 4:10 with 31" will level the playing field the only thing is I have the 6 speed which should make it a little better to pull with. Be interesting to here a tow report of that trailer on the back of your LJ looking forward to that.
 

Haggis

Appalachian Ridgerunner
We broke in the trailer this weekend after making the harrowing trek 500 yards up the road to the campsite on our property. The trailer was breeze to set up taking a total of 10 minutes and thats with the kids doing most of the work. Fired up the propane for the fridge and it took about 1.5 hours to go from ambient temp (80*) to chilled. The four stablizers worked very well to level the trailer and it felt very stable as the kids bounced around. The matteress' where very comfortable and the sleeping platforms were rock solid, rear is queen sized, front is full sized. Being it was a clear night temps fell into the 40s so I got up before everyone else and fired up the propane furnace, took about ten or fifteen minutes to make it comfortable and after about 20 minutes total I shut it off cause it was getting to warm. That was the best part, no more "I'm cold, go start a fire." A happy wife is always worth the investment. After dark it was nice to sit at the table and play games with the kids without the bugs chewin on you and not havin to mess with a lantern. There was no condensation in the trailer in the morning.

All and all we are really happy with the Fleetwood, in one night it turned me from a rugged backwoods camper (hemlock lean-to or backpack tent) to a damn candy*ss. I guess I'm gettin old. Wife Loves it and is actually making plan trips before I suggest them so more time in the woods for us. Kids Love it too, so that's icing on the cake. here's a couple of photos; Happy wife in first and camp site in the second.
 

flywgn

Explorer
Congratulations Haggis! Hope you have many happy adventures on the backroads...and that you give us all a chance to go along--vicariously, of course.

Allen R
 

jerdog53

Explorer
Mark a few questions if you don't mind.......what is the model number or what ever they list it as so I may go to my local dealer and try to view the same unit and you kept talking about price but never did say, a ball park would be good enough.

Thanks Jerry.
 

Haggis

Appalachian Ridgerunner
jerdog, this is a Fleetwood Evolution E1. It's the smallest of the Evolution line with a 9.5 ft box, there are 2 other series the E2 (10.5 ft box with shower and toilet) and the E3 (11.5 ft box again with shower and tiolet). The E2 and E3 have larger front load platforms, big enough to load a 4 wheeler. Pricing for the E1 new is between $12,500 and $14,000 depending on your options. On various RV sales websites listing for the 05 model year was between $9800 to $11,000. The one we bought was considerably less than the lowest price we found online. Hope that helps.
 

Cruiser

Adventurer
The LJ should have a 3500# tow capacity,, the shorter TJ's had 2000#. The new JK 2dr is 2k still and the 4dr 3500#.
If you like the offroad popup did you see the element series? They are similar in setup but have smaller trailers, even one with one bed,, the neon,, GVW is like 1500 loaded for that one..
Steve
 

offroadchef

Adventurer
Cruiser said:
The LJ should have a 3500# tow capacity,, the shorter TJ's had 2000#. The new JK 2dr is 2k still and the 4dr 3500#.
If you like the offroad popup did you see the element series? They are similar in setup but have smaller trailers, even one with one bed,, the neon,, GVW is like 1500 loaded for that one..
Steve


I think I saw a few pics of one here on this site. someone has/had one. I was just going to start a thread on it. Anyone know who it is?

Markus
 

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