H3 anyone?

[azskyrider]

$80k for an H2 is pretty rediculous. The msrp for an '07 is $55k. I guess spinners and gold plated roof-rack could bump it up that high?

RB

Ron B. I was going off of Mexico prices which are higher than US prices. There are no spinners or gold platted aftermarket suppliers in Sonora as there are in the States. One usually just drives to Tucson or Phoenix and pays to have off road equipment installed. Needless to say the Mexican national usually has to pay a premium for work to be performed that day. The reason being that usually an appointment is made and the off road dealer knows that in order to pull the stops on the floor would require extra $$.

The reason for the high price for the H2.
1. limited availability
2. Shipment.
3. Taxes
4. exclusivity

I priced an H3 last year in Hermosillo. It would be ordered through the GM Dealership that has ties with a DF dealership that has ties with a USA dealership. This most likely will involve paying extra taxes, shipment, and you get what comes in, in terms of color options etc.. There is also NO haggling, leases, and interests rates are at an all time low (13%), ni modo, and you usually have to put down 50% of the vehicle and have 2 years to pay for it. You have to be pretty wealthy to own these vehicles where in the states just about anyone can own a high price vehicle with a good lease term and no money down.

This is also the reason why the used car market in Mexico is very good and depreciation is not as much compared to the states.


Cheers,

 

[azskyrider]

27K? Now that changes things slightly. I thought they were much more than that (high 30's)

Get a white one and fit some steel wheels and it would likely blend in a bit more. Maybe I can get one for some testing.

Scott,

Most of the scottdale Hummer dealerships have them blinged out with special port or dealer installed add ons that raise the price to a very high level.

You can still find basically stock with off road packages on H3 now and on H2's because it seems no one is buying them.

Cheers,

 

[LexusAllTerrain]

and you usually have to put down 50% of the vehicle and have 2 years to pay for QUOTE]

I believe you can go up to 36 months!

 

[azskyrider]

I believe you can go up to 36 months!

Yes you can if you have money in the bank, good payment history, and a credit card. You also have to prove that you own a home and that you have made payments to your electricity and property taxes on time while still having a job that you have been working for a very long time.

There is no SS# for credit checks in Mexico so everything is done the old fashion way. So you have to keep all your receipts. It is really hard just to even get a credit card.

I could go on and on about the differences but it would take too long. Things are so much easier in the states to live a more "Comfortable" but yet not necessarily a debt free life.

Cheers,

 

[HINO SG]

H3?

just found my April '06 Car and Driver:

"..with it's Hummer H3, GM flat-out nailed the off road half of the equation, and then, apperently, got distracted.."

incidently, the final rankings were-

1. Nissan Xtrerra
2. Jeep Grand Cherokee
3. Toyota FJ
4. H3

anti-import bias at Car and Driver? ..if you say so.


I'm actually impressed that a image-based brand like Hummer would put out a real 4x4 truck.

 

[Ron B]

Azskyrider, sorry about the misunderstanding.

I don't put too much faith in the magazine reviews...especially when comparing 4x4's. I'd like to see how each of these trucks would do on a real trail. I think the fj and the h3 would really shine.

Ron B

 

[DBS311]

The H3 has grown on me over time. With 33" tires from the factory (with adventure package), a 4:1 T-case, rear locker, and traction control, it seems like a good package. You can even throw 35's on with the stock suspension with little to no rubbing. I can deal with the low power output (my FJ62 is way slower than the H3) and the small windows, but the thing that scares me, especially for an expedition vehicle, is the small front diff. While lurking on some Hummer forums I have run across a number of people who have ripped teeth off the ring gear on minor obstacles. I know the overall number with these failures is small, but I would hate to think of it happening to me if I am 50+ miles from anything.

 

[Ron B]

there has been a problem with the front diffs and the gears not being hardened. I think that's fixed now, but I know at least three people on a local hummer forum that have had diffs blow in Moab. Not fun. Hopefully that issue is near to be over. Are they the same diffs in the colorado?

ron b

 

[DBS311]

I have no idea but if I were to guess I would think they would be the same. I wonder if it would be possible to swap in the diff out of the H2. In any case, I hope that GM has a plan to increase strength especially if they shoehorn in the 5.3 (lots of speculation that there will be an H3 Alpha).

 

[HINO SG]

H3?

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I don't put too much faith in the magazine reviews...especially when comparing 4x4's. I'd like to see how each of these trucks would do on a real trail. I think the fj and the h3 would really shine.

Ron B

well, that's exactly what they said, actually.

They're just saying, for better or for worse, the Xtrerra and Jeep are what most consumers want.

 

[beattiedr]

H3 Owner

Hi folks,

We have a 2006 H3, and we love it. We take it off road, and use it as a daily driver. It is easy to navigate around town, and the milage is respectable at around 20 - 21 on the highway. We just finished the El Camino El Diablo trail this Thanksgiving Weekend, have been to the Az Coke Ovens. We allways recieve positive comments on the trail. This is a very capable vehicle.

I still have a lot to learn, before my off road driving skills will begin to match the capabilities of the H3.

Thanks,

 

[LexusAllTerrain]

Hi folks,

We have a 2006 H3, and we love it. We take it off road, and use it as a daily driver. It is easy to navigate around town, and the milage is respectable at around 20 - 21 on the highway. We just finished the El Camino El Diablo trail this Thanksgiving Weekend, have been to the Az Coke Ovens. We allways recieve positive comments on the trail. This is a very capable vehicle.

I still have a lot to learn, before my off road driving skills will begin to match the capabilities of the H3.

Thanks,

Do you have any pictures of El camino del Diablo?

And congratulations on your H3, I am glad you are using it to explore!

 

[Scott Brady]

Hi folks,

We have a 2006 H3, and we love it.

Welcome to ExPo and congrats on the new H3.

I like the platform and look forward to hearing your comments on it after a few adventures.

There are many AZ members here, so make sure to watch the planned adventure section for new trail runs.

 

[devinsixtyseven]

one of my favorite movie lines..."i might have gone a different way."

beware the "got distracted" part...small front diffs (for tire size/vehicle weight/output torque) are for light duty (ie dirt road, with rocks, ruts, potholes, offcamber and steeps) offroad. toyota learned the hard way when they tried to run a small front diff in the tundra (new models have a larger diff). it remains a weak link in the older tundras and is the most common source of carnage offroad, even in stock form. wait and see if the problem is fixed somehow, or stick with smaller tires, light throttle, locker, and avoid spinning tires at all costs. 35s will highlight the weakness and leave you limping, despite a small box, rear locker, articulation, etc...

the H-series vehicles get their reputation from 90% of owners (i made that number up for effect). i don't see any of those owners on the expo, but consider the environment theyve created before you get a Hummer. frankly i dont think anyone here cares what you bring to the trailhead, if you're willing to soak up the backlash from the majority of the rest of the populace.

-sean

 

[bigreen505]

I have never been in an H3, but my biggest problem with them, like the FJ Cruiser, is it would appear that the view out is limited at best. One of these days I need to shut up and buy a Jeep, but I think nature is best viewed in 360 degrees.