Hamish question.

xcmountain80

Expedition Leader
gary in ohio said:
The 2200 is a nice radio and if you every plan on going to Dstar digital is a good choice. If dstar is not in your future and you want a radio for a trail rig then I would look at the V8000 from icom. A bit more rugged, forward facing speakers, lots of alpha memories and just a few dollars more.


Well you know I will be using it in a vehicle and my rig isn't open but rugged is always good. The d-star things looks to be more than what I'll need. Though the 2200 is about $100 less than the 8000. So my thinking is if the 2200 will do all the same things then its just as good thought the front firing speaker would really be nice.

Aaron
 

DaveInDenver

Middle Income Semi-Redneck
xcmountain80 said:
Ok so what should I run for an antenna? bumper mounted would be preferred.
I ran the Comet C767 on my ARB and was happy with it. I moved the mount to my roof and now run a stubby Larsen NMO270SH, which is a short whip with a spring. Mainly I didn't like the idea of having a 50W transmitter 4 feet in front of my face with only the windshield between us. Paranoid? Maybe, but enough people I know have beat cancer lately that I'm starting to be more careful, not to mention that antennas work better on the roof.
 

Pskhaat

2005 Expedition Trophy Champion
DaveInDenver said:
Mainly I didn't like the idea of having a 50W transmitter 4 feet in front of my face

And you call me bad about not using my 1850W microwave transmitter :)

However, I think I'll be moving my antenna to a lipmount on the rear hatch soon.
 

xcmountain80

Expedition Leader
Yes good point! Though I'm not certain whether a link has been proven btwn the two (cancer and 50W) Im with you better safe than sorry. Now my next question might seem weird to some but can the same antenna be used for both cb and Ham? Obviously I'll upgrade my cb ant. to whatever but could I switch btwn the two? Or should I run them independently? Now the response I will get will probably be run them independently, but I'm mainly curious as to why?

Aaron
 

Pskhaat

2005 Expedition Trophy Champion
xcmountain80 said:
bumper mounted would be preferred.

As DnD said, you can get the bumper mount to work, but it truly does belong on the roof somewhere. If not there, possibly an L- or lip-mount on the hood.
 

Pskhaat

2005 Expedition Trophy Champion
xcmountain80 said:
but I'm mainly curious as to why?

A CB has to be it's own transceiver which means you'll need to run both feedlines through some antenna box/switch which could degrade your performance. I also am not aware of an 11m/Ham combo antenna and you most likely don't want to build your own.
 

DaveInDenver

Middle Income Semi-Redneck
You could maybe find a single antenna that would work, sort of. I'm thinking of one like Scott has that covers 10m ham (CB is 11m wavelength). But I don't know that they can be tuned independently. If so, there /might/ be enough adjustment to get it close for a CB. You can feed one antenna with two radios using a switch (it's called a duplexer or if there are 3 into 1 it would be a triplexer). With this you can feed one antenna with multiple radios or vice versa, one radio can talk to several antennas. If you fed a CB and a ham radio into one antenna, you could not use them both at the same time, it's either-or. I could see the benefit, one mount, one feedpoint. But even if the group I'm traveling with is mostly CB or ham, I leave the other one and monitoring anyway, so I think it's better to have two antenna systems personally. I do have my CB antenna on the ARB, it's just 4W anyway. Yeah, I don't know that they have specifically linked low power VHF with any health related issues, but I dunno that they have ruled it out either. Just like living next to high tension power lines, intuitively I know there's nothing bad about them being on the ground, I just can't get past that it might be bad. It's case where a little knowledge is more dangerous than none at all. Going through the field strength calculations in school sort of makes you think. Then you add in what the FCC and ARRL think is a biologically safe exposure and, well, you are then somewhat irrational when you have friends and family who get cancer.
 

Lynn

Expedition Leader
xcmountain80 said:
Hmm well I guess my only other options is a satellite phone. Man who would have thought.


Aaron

Actually, I think the only other option, since you are looking to use the radio commercially, is to get a commercial license and commercial radios.

It appears from your follow-on questions above that you intend to pursue using HAM equipment. I just wanted to reiterate that HAM radio equipment cannot be legally used for a commercial operation.
 
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xcmountain80

Expedition Leader
Yes I'm still going with Ham, I intend to use for other purposes than initially stated. I have another possibility for communication but find myself in need of a Ham for travel and personal use.

Ok so mount on the roof if at all possible but also can be mounted bumper style if need be. Sometimes I run without the roof rack (guess I could do a mag mount). I'm looking to the V-8000 for its simplicity, forward facing speaker, and heavy duty construction.

Aaron
 

xcmountain80

Expedition Leader
Ok just bought the IC-v8000's for non business purposes. Now I need to get an antenna, though running into an issue locating either of those antennas. (Comet, Larsen) with those model numbers. Any other I might look into?

Aaron
 
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gary in ohio

Explorer
DaveInDenver said:
Mainly I didn't like the idea of having a 50W transmitter 4 feet in front of my face with only the windshield between us.

You shouldnt be using it full power anyway. minimum power needed for the contact. You also listen most of the time, so exposure is a minimum.
 

xcmountain80

Expedition Leader
So what kind of antennas other than listed? There must be others available, right? Every time I do a search there are a ton that come up, so maybe some key features would be more helpful.


Aaron
 

Lynn

Expedition Leader
xcmountain80 said:
So what kind of antennas other than listed? There must be others available, right? Every time I do a search there are a ton that come up, so maybe some key features would be more helpful.


Aaron

Actually, your Ham class will be the most useful.
 

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