M1102 Trailer build

Kfred 513

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Hello everyone, I recently picked up a trailer and plan to mod it for overland camping. Back in 2012 I did a build thread for a 1988 YJ and had a lot of fun and enjoyed the support throughout the process. Its nice to look back and remember the forgotten details, and see all the help I had along the way. I’m hoping this build goes the same way.
The Trailer

I bought a 2010 Schutt Industries M1102 from GovPlanet and will be modding it for overland camping. The trailer is in great shape and doesn’t appear to have been used more than a few times. It still has the original tires from 2010 and they look brand new. The trailer was originally from the Nevada Guard 17th Sustainment Brigade. They are stationed in Vegas, and that’s where we currently live so it’s a Vegas trailer through and through. The rear left of the trailer has a coded stencil that we used to figure out its last home. I took a look at their patch and its pretty cool so I plan to incorporate that into the build.

I went with the M1102 for a few reasons.

#1. Its Big! Maybe too big, but I wanted plenty of space.

#2 Aluminum. I like the idea of the trailer being all aluminum. Rust isn’t an issue in Vegas, but the whole point of overland camping for us is to get out of Vegas. Knowing the chassis/body will never rust is a pro in my book.

#3 Lug pattern. I have a 2006 Ram with the 5.9 Cummins and the lug pattern on the truck and trailer is 8x6.5. It will be nice to have one spare for both vehicles, or 3 spares for the truck and an immobile trailer if it’s a really bad day.

#4 Durability. Schutt claims that they have never had a chassis failure on one of these trailers. Given the abuse that they see overseas, I think that’s impressive. The trailer is also rated for 4200lbs, but the spindles are for 6/7klbs GVRW, so its overbuilt for sure.

#5 Affordability. In the past, these trailers were very cheap for what they are. People are learning that... A year ago GovPlanet sales averaged $2200-2500. I paid $3700 and this was the third one I bid on. Also, if you go this route be prepared to pay sales tax, GovPlanet fees, and title fees. It cost me almost another $1000 above sale price, include that in your budget if you follow this path.
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The Plan

Short term

We purchased a CVT Hybrid Rainier during the 40% off sale in December 2021. We showed up with intentions of just looking, but you know how that goes. The CVT Vegas facility is a cool spot to check out. They have a lot on display, they had their new line on the showroom floor and we got to see it before they released it on the website.

I will be building a rack for the tent and scoured the dozens of pages in the DIY trailer build thread to find inspiration. I am incorporating design aspects from a lot of different builds, but I haven’t seen any done the way I plan to build mine.

As others have before me, I want to mount a truck box on one bed rail, the side that will face camp. This will give us easy access to some storage. The tent annex and entry will be on the other side. My thought is that the tent can be out of the way, and our cooking/living space should face the side we want to spend most time on. It also keeps the tent a little farther from a camp fire and less likely to catch a floating ember.

Tent Rack Design

I want to be able to use the tent annex without much sagging at the bottom. I couldn’t find accurate information anywhere about height requirements so I called CVT and they said 75-80” from ground to tent floor is best. Unfortunately I need to be 76” or less total height to fit in the garage, so an adjustable rack is required.

The most common DIY adjustable rack is telescoping square tube, which I will be doing, but not in the traditional sense. Most builds use near equal length legs for the male/female sections. This wouldn’t work for me for a couple reasons. I want to keep the rack on the bed rails, and I want it to bolt on to keep it removable. I couldn’t build a traditional equal length male/female leg system that kept the tent low enough in to fit in the garage, and high enough to use the annex properly. I spent some time thinking and came up with exactly what I need.

I have a little experience with CAD software, but it’s been a while and most of my modeling was small individual parts, not a large moving system with multiple parts. I’ve used Fusion 360 a bit with my 3D printer so I started there and designed the brackets to mount the legs to the factory nutcerts.
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Once I had a good model for the bracket I dove into the rack design. After lots of tweaks, I came up with this.




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It will be slow progress for a bit and I wont be able to start building the rack until mid February, but I hope to have the rack finished by March. I plan to paint the trailer as well, I'm not exactly sure how yet, or what color. I'd love some feedback on the rack, this was my first time modeling something like this, and it seems like it will work, but if anyone sees an obvious flaw please let me know before I burn metal and money!
 

Kfred 513

New member
It's been way longer than I intended between posts. I wanted to keep this thread current as the build progressed but life is just to busy. We have been out in the trailer multiple times and its great. So far it is doing really well.

The original rack design wasn't rigid enough so I had to add supports around the top to prevent everything flexing. It is now very solid and I feel really comfortable with the strength it has.

One regret with the M1102 platform is the fact that it is so overbuilt that the suspension doesn't cycle at current weight. I've read that they used a 7500lb torsion axle even though the max GVWR is only 4200...it literally bounces on washboard and the only softening of the ride comes from sidewall flex. The truck rides smooth on the Thuren lift with soft coils, but the trailer bounces shakes us up a bit. I don't think it's worth the cost to replace the suspension, but a trailing arm setup is something I truly understand the value of now.

I built a drawer system from 3/4" plywood which ended up costing a fortune. I probably would do that different if I could go back. I used rubber roof to keep the top water tight since there is a seam. The overall width of the box is more than 48" so I had to include a seam, which made for a lot of waste, and increased cost. Lesson learned there. I'm hoping the box will last a long time, but I am concerned about water and I think I need to improve its ability to be in wet conditions.
 

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Kfred 513

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Kfred 513

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When I got the trailer we were able to decipher the stencil on the back and identify the unit the trailer came from. I looked them up and they are located right here in Las Vegas. I decided to pay some homage and put their patch on the trailer. I used sendcutsend.com to cut out some aluminum and riveted one on each side.
 

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Kfred 513

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I haven't used the Dometic Go faucet on a trip yet, but I designed a sump system to draw from two Aquatainers at the same time. It works, although not exactly even, so one will dry up first, and then the rest of the remaining container will be unusable with the current setup because it will just draw air from the empty container. I'll see how it goes, but I'm hoping we can avoid swapping jugs since they are heavy and difficult to lug around at 7 Gallons. Using the spouts was one of our biggest complaints and this way they can stay right on the trailer and water is a quick tap away.
 

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Great build! Looks like you can reach the tubing from outside the trailer? No need to swap containers if you just put an inline on/off valve between each container and the T fitting. Or use a sharkbite manifold or equiv if you want ability to add more continers to your system. Drain one and then swap to the second one.
 

Kfred 513

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Great build! Looks like you can reach the tubing from outside the trailer? No need to swap containers if you just put an inline on/off valve between each container and the T fitting. Or use a sharkbite manifold or equiv if you want ability to add more continers to your system. Drain one and then swap to the second one.

Yeah The water cubes and tubes are very easy to reach since they sit up on the wheel well. The shutoff valve is a great idea. I just really hate juggling those things around, its difficult to be reaching over the trailer body and under the tent rack. Anything I can do to avoid moving a full 7Gal jug is worth it haha.
 

tc222

New member
Hello everyone, I recently picked up a trailer and plan to mod it for overland camping. Back in 2012 I did a build thread for a 1988 YJ and had a lot of fun and enjoyed the support throughout the process. Its nice to look back and remember the forgotten details, and see all the help I had along the way. I’m hoping this build goes the same way.
The Trailer

I bought a 2010 Schutt Industries M1102 from GovPlanet and will be modding it for overland camping. The trailer is in great shape and doesn’t appear to have been used more than a few times. It still has the original tires from 2010 and they look brand new. The trailer was originally from the Nevada Guard 17th Sustainment Brigade. They are stationed in Vegas, and that’s where we currently live so it’s a Vegas trailer through and through. The rear left of the trailer has a coded stencil that we used to figure out its last home. I took a look at their patch and its pretty cool so I plan to incorporate that into the build.

I went with the M1102 for a few reasons.

#1. Its Big! Maybe too big, but I wanted plenty of space.

#2 Aluminum. I like the idea of the trailer being all aluminum. Rust isn’t an issue in Vegas, but the whole point of overland camping for us is to get out of Vegas. Knowing the chassis/body will never rust is a pro in my book.

#3 Lug pattern. I have a 2006 Ram with the 5.9 Cummins and the lug pattern on the truck and trailer is 8x6.5. It will be nice to have one spare for both vehicles, or 3 spares for the truck and an immobile trailer if it’s a really bad day.

#4 Durability. Schutt claims that they have never had a chassis failure on one of these trailers. Given the abuse that they see overseas, I think that’s impressive. The trailer is also rated for 4200lbs, but the spindles are for 6/7klbs GVRW, so its overbuilt for sure.

#5 Affordability. In the past, these trailers were very cheap for what they are. People are learning that... A year ago GovPlanet sales averaged $2200-2500. I paid $3700 and this was the third one I bid on. Also, if you go this route be prepared to pay sales tax, GovPlanet fees, and title fees. It cost me almost another $1000 above sale price, include that in your budget if you follow this path.
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The Plan

Short term

We purchased a CVT Hybrid Rainier during the 40% off sale in December 2021. We showed up with intentions of just looking, but you know how that goes. The CVT Vegas facility is a cool spot to check out. They have a lot on display, they had their new line on the showroom floor and we got to see it before they released it on the website.

I will be building a rack for the tent and scoured the dozens of pages in the DIY trailer build thread to find inspiration. I am incorporating design aspects from a lot of different builds, but I haven’t seen any done the way I plan to build mine.

As others have before me, I want to mount a truck box on one bed rail, the side that will face camp. This will give us easy access to some storage. The tent annex and entry will be on the other side. My thought is that the tent can be out of the way, and our cooking/living space should face the side we want to spend most time on. It also keeps the tent a little farther from a camp fire and less likely to catch a floating ember.

Tent Rack Design

I want to be able to use the tent annex without much sagging at the bottom. I couldn’t find accurate information anywhere about height requirements so I called CVT and they said 75-80” from ground to tent floor is best. Unfortunately I need to be 76” or less total height to fit in the garage, so an adjustable rack is required.

The most common DIY adjustable rack is telescoping square tube, which I will be doing, but not in the traditional sense. Most builds use near equal length legs for the male/female sections. This wouldn’t work for me for a couple reasons. I want to keep the rack on the bed rails, and I want it to bolt on to keep it removable. I couldn’t build a traditional equal length male/female leg system that kept the tent low enough in to fit in the garage, and high enough to use the annex properly. I spent some time thinking and came up with exactly what I need.

I have a little experience with CAD software, but it’s been a while and most of my modeling was small individual parts, not a large moving system with multiple parts. I’ve used Fusion 360 a bit with my 3D printer so I started there and designed the brackets to mount the legs to the factory nutcerts.
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Once I had a good model for the bracket I dove into the rack design. After lots of tweaks, I came up with this.




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It will be slow progress for a bit and I wont be able to start building the rack until mid February, but I hope to have the rack finished by March. I plan to paint the trailer as well, I'm not exactly sure how yet, or what color. I'd love some feedback on the rack, this was my first time modeling something like this, and it seems like it will work, but if anyone sees an obvious flaw please let me know before I burn metal and money!
Do you happen to have the final CAD drawings?
 

Kfred 513

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Do you happen to have the final CAD drawings?
I have the .dxf that was used to cut the steel brackets that match the riv-nuts on each corner. I cannot upload a .dxf so if anyone wants it, please DM me your email and I will send it that way
 

Kfred 513

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Another year, another update. We didn't use the trailer as much as I would have liked, but did get out and enjoy it a bit. A boys trip to Moab in March was the first trip with the dometic faucet. We camped a few miles above slick rock and it got cold! Nights were in the low 20s fahrenheit and the water in the lines froze! I drained the faucet every night before bed to prevent damage during the low temps.

The aluminum mount from send cut send didn't arrive in time, so we used the printed version and it worked great. If I hadn't already ordered the aluminum piece, I probably would have added some ribs for extra strength and printed a permanent one. The straw system works great and seems to drain both active tanks equally. The quick disconnect allows for running water within a minute of dropping the tailgate, love it.

Another nice thing about the drawer system is throwing a padlock through one of the tailgate latches prevents anyone from digging through our drawers while out on the bikes.

The last addition for the year was a condition1 battery box to keep that locked up and water tight. It's the perfect size to use the original foam from the EcoFlow packaging to keep the battery secure. This method makes for easy removal. My biggest concern is overheating since the box has no vent, but i'll deal with that if it happens.

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TeamAnvil

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Just found this in a search and wondered if you know the wall thickness of the square tubing you used? Look like 2" square. I'm trying to use 1.5" x 3" rectangle but I'm concerned about flex in the cross bars when it's loaded (RTT, storage, solar, etc.).

In your 12/3/22 post you said "The original rack design wasn't rigid enough so I had to add supports around the top to prevent everything flexing." What part is this? Sounds like you stayed with the same material though, just added more.
 

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