New Chevy Colorado, This thing is SEXY!!
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calicamper
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Yes thats typical GM they offer the same vehicle under different brands and GMC is sorta like the higher end version of Chevy regarding Trucks. They really need to get away from this model given most Consumers are smart enough or should be smart enough to know that GM offers the same vehicle with different stickers ie labels on it with different price tags. Thats the whole reason GM got into trouble in the first place when you start selling the same car under 3-4 different labels people start to look at your business as if its run by a bunch of Schizophrenic leaders. LOL
Kaisen
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There's actually quite a lot of difference between the Chevrolet Colorado and the GMC Canyon. Everyone knows they are the same mechanicals and hard-points, but the sheetmetal is quite different, and the trim levels and available features are very different.
I suppose the Toyota Landcruiser and Lexus LX570 prove that Toyota is run by a bunch of Schizophrenic leaders as well?
I suppose the Toyota Landcruiser and Lexus LX570 prove that Toyota is run by a bunch of Schizophrenic leaders as well?
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It is only used on the back of the seats in the Tacoma, right?
*Looking at the Toyota website* I can't find anything for the surface of the seats like you used to be able to get.
Still can on the SR Tundra, and rubber flooring.
Kaisen
Explorer
The synthetic pleather is for all seating surfaces in a Tacoma Limited. You cannot opt for real leather on any seat surface.
However, the steering wheel and shifter covers are real leather.
calicamper
Expedition Leader
Toyota has two brands Lexus and Toyota and they do the differentiation in a far smarter manner. GM was doing this with upwards of 3+ at one point and the differentiation was poorly done. If you didn't like the sheet metal of the GMC you had no option to get a Chevy with decent stuff on it. VS Toyota lets you get all the decent quality stuff on a Toyota and lets you get over the top wood trim and high end very quality materials in their Lexus. Not the same thing as getting garbage quality in the Chevy and marginally acceptable quality in the GMC. LOL
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calicamper
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Mtex is what Mercedes calls it. I can't recall what VW called it but it was exactly the same stuff. Very good seat cover material. I tried at one point to figure out what the industry name was for the material but didn't get very far. I bet a good boat or auto shop that does seats and interiors would know.
Kaisen
Explorer
M-B Tex is a material made by Mercedes-Benz and is not sold to other manufacturers. Very durable, thick stuff. I've owned several Mercedes that had it, and several that had leather. The M-B Tex is way more durable.
Volkswagen has used several different vinyls over time and only started offering real leather in the early 90s. The current VW vinyls aren't the same (not as thick) as the 70's-80's stuff.
Here's some info on Toyota's SofTex:
http://toyota.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/7788/~/what-is-softex®?
http://articles.sae.org/11983/
Here's what Toyota's website says about the Tacoma Limited's interior:
"Technology can still be luxurious. Tacoma Limited offers front and rear seats trimmed with SofTex®, a revolutionary material that is soft like leather, but weighs half as much. It’s also easier to clean and more eco-sensitive than normal synthetic leather. This package also includes heated front seats, so no matter how cold it is outside, Tacoma makes it easy to warm up inside."
Volkswagen has used several different vinyls over time and only started offering real leather in the early 90s. The current VW vinyls aren't the same (not as thick) as the 70's-80's stuff.
Here's some info on Toyota's SofTex:
http://toyota.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/7788/~/what-is-softex®?
http://articles.sae.org/11983/
Here's what Toyota's website says about the Tacoma Limited's interior:
"Technology can still be luxurious. Tacoma Limited offers front and rear seats trimmed with SofTex®, a revolutionary material that is soft like leather, but weighs half as much. It’s also easier to clean and more eco-sensitive than normal synthetic leather. This package also includes heated front seats, so no matter how cold it is outside, Tacoma makes it easy to warm up inside."
superbuickguy
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You are such a troll.. go away
calicamper
Expedition Leader
07 Sequoia currently, 2001 1.8T VW and a 2010 Limited 2.5 CVT Outback, prior to the Sequoia we had a 93 Land Cruiser for 8yrs. And for Fun Grandpa's SLK 350 which sits in my driveway every day.
My interest in the new midsized trucks is to see if we can eventually replace the Sequoia with one that gets good mileage - interested in the small diesels to arrive sooner than later I hope, then eventually go to a FWC camper or possibly a flat bed though only if I sell the sail boat given we wouldn't have time for both the boat and enough camping to justify the Flatbed FWC.
I liked the Colorado size but I suspect attention to the details that make that final level of interest will either show up in the higher trim GMC Canyon or possibly the Toyota or Nissan response in a year or two. Today I'm not for any one brand given any major brand should have similar performance and reliability where they start to be different in ways that matter is how the Company handles customer vehicle issues and the quality of the materials put into things like seat covers and the options they let you get in various trims.
My response to the Z1 - I was expecting much nicer seat covers given it was Chevy's top trim version. It was missing that final bling factor that gets the check book to surface. I'll wait to see what the Canyon looks like and what Toyota and Nissan cook up.
If it were just me I'd get a KTM pack my tent and gear and go, but given I want my wife on board with more trips and camping she's going to need to like both the ride and the destination. The Sequoia has Fo leather but at least its looks good feels good and is durable as hell. Same goes for the option I've seen in the Tacoma and Frontier. We were sitting in the Nissan Dealer back on 2005 negotiating on a nice 4dr 6spd leather package loaded Frontier when we walked out dealers wanted too much for those trucks then in our area. We bought a cherry 93 Land cruiser instead for 1/3 the price great truck. Sold it not long ago for exactly what we paid for it in 2005. No complaints there!! The new midsized if they all are in the colorado/canyon size range and offer diesels that get car like mileage offering some really nice range plus gives us the ability to get a heated FWC camper to bunk in that would be ideal. The LC we were always worried about range vs fuel given 12-13mpg was our typical mileage. The Sequoia is more of a soccer mom rig works great for hauling kids and grand parents but its not my idea of a long distance driver on longer trips and our tent trailer is cold when it gets cold out.
We take the Subaru Outback on the long road trips that do not involve hauling grand parents and the entire house with us. Having 500mile range without the trailer has been a very nice thing to have and having a 350 mile range with the trailer has been just as nice. To get that type of range and more modern comfy interior in one of these new midsized rigs starting to surface would be ideal!
My interest in the new midsized trucks is to see if we can eventually replace the Sequoia with one that gets good mileage - interested in the small diesels to arrive sooner than later I hope, then eventually go to a FWC camper or possibly a flat bed though only if I sell the sail boat given we wouldn't have time for both the boat and enough camping to justify the Flatbed FWC.
I liked the Colorado size but I suspect attention to the details that make that final level of interest will either show up in the higher trim GMC Canyon or possibly the Toyota or Nissan response in a year or two. Today I'm not for any one brand given any major brand should have similar performance and reliability where they start to be different in ways that matter is how the Company handles customer vehicle issues and the quality of the materials put into things like seat covers and the options they let you get in various trims.
My response to the Z1 - I was expecting much nicer seat covers given it was Chevy's top trim version. It was missing that final bling factor that gets the check book to surface. I'll wait to see what the Canyon looks like and what Toyota and Nissan cook up.
If it were just me I'd get a KTM pack my tent and gear and go, but given I want my wife on board with more trips and camping she's going to need to like both the ride and the destination. The Sequoia has Fo leather but at least its looks good feels good and is durable as hell. Same goes for the option I've seen in the Tacoma and Frontier. We were sitting in the Nissan Dealer back on 2005 negotiating on a nice 4dr 6spd leather package loaded Frontier when we walked out dealers wanted too much for those trucks then in our area. We bought a cherry 93 Land cruiser instead for 1/3 the price great truck. Sold it not long ago for exactly what we paid for it in 2005. No complaints there!! The new midsized if they all are in the colorado/canyon size range and offer diesels that get car like mileage offering some really nice range plus gives us the ability to get a heated FWC camper to bunk in that would be ideal. The LC we were always worried about range vs fuel given 12-13mpg was our typical mileage. The Sequoia is more of a soccer mom rig works great for hauling kids and grand parents but its not my idea of a long distance driver on longer trips and our tent trailer is cold when it gets cold out.
We take the Subaru Outback on the long road trips that do not involve hauling grand parents and the entire house with us. Having 500mile range without the trailer has been a very nice thing to have and having a 350 mile range with the trailer has been just as nice. To get that type of range and more modern comfy interior in one of these new midsized rigs starting to surface would be ideal!
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I had high hopes for the mid-size GM...having Toyotas for 25 years now...was thinking of trying something different. But they aren't all that aren't Earth shattering...maybe a littl ebetter here and there, but gave up in other areas. So why leave Toyota?
Waiting to see what 2016 brings...
I go back and forth on a fullsize and mid-size...thinking about a FWC, I would for sure do a fullsize...then another part of me says keep it simple and go with Flip Pac...then a mid-size makes more sense....and I get to keep my manual transmissions that I am so fond of. I'll most likely DD the thing...so a fullsize doesn't make much sense, either...decision...decisions..
Diesel...I dunno...seems like a wash in the end. I would have to drive one back to back with a gasser to make a decision. I sure do like my buddy's Cummins...I don't want to feed that beast though!
calicamper
Expedition Leader
FWC is only about 15 minutes from where I grew up. I really like the company and their stuff. Would love to have one!!!! Wife's job puts us on the edges of the summer warm camping months for when we can get away, cold tents and wife ='s limited to zero camping opportunities. She asked what I wanted for Christmas this year and I responded right away with "A CAMPING TRIP!" ha ha pretty sad.
The Canyon interior picts looks to address much of the lousy looking and quality Seat covers the Z1 had. So I'll go check it out when the dealers get them. Though won't be buying anything for a while diesel isn't a money thing for me its more about the range and type of power just seems more fitting for the type of use I would really like to use it for. Range limitations can put a damper on the adventure fun given within just 2-3hr drive from our front door we have areas that start to get pretty remote with some interesting places to see that start to put you right at the very costly remote fill up locations or trying to avoid them and sweating the fuel gauge status. That was a huge deal with the 12-13mpg Landcruiser I didn't enjoy that aspect about it at all.
Seems like most people that start out with the Tacoma and move up do so because of load capacity needs. The new numbers on the Colorado / Canyon seem like they would probably address most of that except for those who really want to pack some serious weight and gear for multiple people. I'm a back packer thats tired of carrying my stuff so keeping the gear down and going as small and light as comfortably possible is more my style. The car camping trips with the Subaru we seem to pack plenty of fun toys and nice comfort stuff for the kids and were still pretty light and simple. So a midsized idea like the Colorado with an interior the wife will tolerate long drives in seems like it could work pretty well. For extra heavy toy load trips we could just load up the trailer and drag it along and use it as the kids bunk house too. But cooler temp trips I think we could make do with a Fleet sized FWC rigged with a bunk that drops in at the top of the hard side over lower seating/bunk space would be tight but primary use in that situation would be warm place to snooze. The Flatbed version would be the cats meow but I would need to convince my wife to sell our sailboat and really get serious about camping trips to justify the $20K build on a new pickup.
The Canyon interior picts looks to address much of the lousy looking and quality Seat covers the Z1 had. So I'll go check it out when the dealers get them. Though won't be buying anything for a while diesel isn't a money thing for me its more about the range and type of power just seems more fitting for the type of use I would really like to use it for. Range limitations can put a damper on the adventure fun given within just 2-3hr drive from our front door we have areas that start to get pretty remote with some interesting places to see that start to put you right at the very costly remote fill up locations or trying to avoid them and sweating the fuel gauge status. That was a huge deal with the 12-13mpg Landcruiser I didn't enjoy that aspect about it at all.
Seems like most people that start out with the Tacoma and move up do so because of load capacity needs. The new numbers on the Colorado / Canyon seem like they would probably address most of that except for those who really want to pack some serious weight and gear for multiple people. I'm a back packer thats tired of carrying my stuff so keeping the gear down and going as small and light as comfortably possible is more my style. The car camping trips with the Subaru we seem to pack plenty of fun toys and nice comfort stuff for the kids and were still pretty light and simple. So a midsized idea like the Colorado with an interior the wife will tolerate long drives in seems like it could work pretty well. For extra heavy toy load trips we could just load up the trailer and drag it along and use it as the kids bunk house too. But cooler temp trips I think we could make do with a Fleet sized FWC rigged with a bunk that drops in at the top of the hard side over lower seating/bunk space would be tight but primary use in that situation would be warm place to snooze. The Flatbed version would be the cats meow but I would need to convince my wife to sell our sailboat and really get serious about camping trips to justify the $20K build on a new pickup.