Re-tread tires

[onelow1ton]

Well that sucks to hear timh . I was the oposit I was learry of buying them and not sure how well they would balance and to my surprise they balanced better then my old pro comp xtarrains and also better than my wife's procomp mtr's and my buddy has a ton more weights on his km2's then my treadwrights I was very impressed

 

[ExploringNH]

I've been running a set of TreadWright Guard Dogs in 285/75/16 flavor for about 15k miles of Central and South American roads. So far, I love them. I've certainly pushed these tires harder than any tire I have ever owned. They are wearing really well, despite my poor maintenance. I often run them severely under inflated and I still haven't rotated them. They are fairly loud and that is my only complaint. I drove on them for about 100 miles before I had a chance to balance them (mounted them myself). I didn't have any noticeable vibration or shake up to 65mph (the fastest I went during that time). When I finally did get them balanced they took about as much weight as my previous BFG KM2s.

 

[jonesw3]

I have a set of TW Wardens with about 3000 miles on them. I absolutely love them! I recently returned from a weekend trip that rained the entire time and I never once ( in 80 offroad miles) felt like the tires couldnt handle it. I would highly reccommend them.

 

[iMTB]

I have 215/85 duratracs now. I'm considering going to 235/85 TR crawler mts next. I'm not one to go for cheap tires, but the reviews make them sound like the best way to go.

 

[getlost4x4]

I've had mine on for about a year now on my 2001 Range Rover HSE. I've put about 8000 miles on them since I installed them. I still have not rebalanced them. They work great.

I've taken 2 trips with them from Billings Montana down to Salt Lake City and back. Going 80 mph most of the way. Feel great!

I've put a few thousand miles on them off road as well. GREAT TIRES! I'm running 245/75/16's Load Range E, the Warden Pattern. I'll definitely buy another pair if these ever wear out. They still look like new.

I usually run them at 25psi. When it snows and the streets get icy in town i lower the pressure to 17 psi. The grip well in all types of crap. From mud to snow to sandstone rock, they are great.

 

[NC_IslandRunner]

I've been running a set of TreadWright Guard Dogs in 285/75/16 flavor for about 15k miles of Central and South American roads. So far, I love them. I've certainly pushed these tires harder than any tire I have ever owned. They are wearing really well, despite my poor maintenance. I often run them severely under inflated and I still haven't rotated them. They are fairly loud and that is my only complaint. I drove on them for about 100 miles before I had a chance to balance them (mounted them myself). I didn't have any noticeable vibration or shake up to 65mph (the fastest I went during that time). When I finally did get them balanced they took about as much weight as my previous BFG KM2s.

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Agreed, Treadwright GuardDogs are awesome tires. Been running then since Nov. last year 2 offroad events and no complaints and no chunking.

 

[Martinjmpr]

Cost Savings?

You can't really know the cost savings until you run through a set.

Seems to me for the risks involved, there isn't much of a cost savings.

Back in August I paid about $750 to have 4 Hankook Dynapro AT-M's installed at Discount Tire. Assuming you could get a set of Treadwrights for $450 that's a savings of $300 (but does that price include installation or any kind of road hazard warranty?)

Now figure that the Hankook's have a 50k mile treadlife warranty so I can comfortably figure I'll get that many miles, which works out to roughly 1.5 cents per mile.

The hypothetical Treadwrights at $450 would knock that down to about .9 cents per mile. Now a 60% savings sounds great, but in dollars and cents, that means for a truck like mine that gets driven about 11,000 miles/year (I have a separate Daily Driver) that works out to $165/year on tires for the Hankooks or $99/year for the retreads.

And of course, the above number-crunching is a best-case scenario. If that $450 doesn't include installation or road hazard, or if the tires last less than 50,000 miles, the savings diminish even further.

To me, at least, the ability to air down, the ability to have an easy balancing tire and the reliability of a new tire from a known manufacturer and installation by a dealer with shops all over the country is worth $66/year.

Of course, that's just me. Your mileage may vary!

 

[onelow1ton]

I'll only comment on the balancing part but my guard dogs balanced up way better with less weight than any name brand mt I have ever had installed on any of my vehicles and so far are looking like I'm finally going to get some decent milage out of so mt tires

 

[Desert Dan]

In my opinion..
Knowing the use/abuse my tires get....



When my tires/carcasses are done and worn out I wouldn't want anyone else to to ride on them.
Maybe in a dual wheel application or off road only but not at high speed.

 

[BurbanAZ]

yea i went back and fourth on wanting them and like many others said when i took into accound the tires, shipping, mounting (if your local shop will even do it) then the cost saved wasnt hugem then when i add in worrying about the tires themselves it just didnt seem worth it to me. Im sure most of the time their great tires but i have heard many stories going both ways, the biggest issue ive heard people having was the company retreading over damaged carcasses with nails or something in them. The company seems to take care of the customers but if im stuck in the middle of the desert because 2 of my tires seperated knowing that the company will replace them wont do me much good.

 

[reece146]

When my tires/carcasses are done and worn out I wouldn't want anyone else to to ride on them.
Maybe in a dual wheel application or off road only but not at high speed.

This. Fatigue isn't just a theory.

 

[Martinjmpr]

Dumb question, maybe, but can they recycle old tires into new tires? I know it's not as simple as just melting them down and pouring new ones (because there are steel and other materials in there) but it seems to me that with all the old tires around, somebody ought to be able to figure out how to recycle tires in a manner that is both safe and cost effective.

 

[camper357]

Google is your friend. There is a reason why recycled tires are not made into new tires.

 

[BigSwede]

I bought a set of 285/75/16 Wardens for my first FZJ80. Looked great and performed as expected. I sold the rig to ExPo member Car-Car who took it on vacation with his bride and two wee ones. The TreadWrights failed and rolled the rig a few times. Had the Good Lord not intervened, the story would have been very grim. The re-treads failed. They failed in only a way a re-tread could fail. They nearly killed a family. I researched them and decided to buy them thinking as many in this thread do. No more.

The small amount of money saved is not worth the potential disaster. Unless of course you have a crystal ball that can guarantee your passengers safety. If your so smart you can ignore the possibility, then have your wife etc. riding with you read the thread below and see how much they appreciate you putting them on those tires.

Isolated incident? It only takes it happening to you once, right?

http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/56847-Almost-Didn’t-Make-It-Back….

This happens with new tires too. The rate of failure between new or retread tires would be the question.

 

[88Xj]

Knowing this is a old, but useful thread. Lets bring it back.

I'd love to hear average mileage on the Guard Dogs or Wardens. I've worn out a set of 33x10.5 km'2 with 3-4k rotations in 38k miles, theres still some tread but its about time for new tires as well, so about 40k it seems with Km'2..
Treadwright is about 1hr drive from me, about 50 worth of gas & I can get them mount for free. I know these things weigh quite a bit as well. I've seen and handled them in person before. I currently have 33x10.5 km'2 on Dwindow steelies and its not a light combo..but the TW either 30x9.5 or 31x10.5, can't remember, weighed similar and they were on stock jeep alloys which weigh less than my steelies do.