Semi-Gloss Paint Hood Blackout?

FourByLand

Expedition Leader
madizell said:
If you have not attempted to remove a large decal from a painted surface, especially after it has sat in the sun for several years, you have missed one of life's little pleasures. The glue sets up into some new and exotic chemical never seen by man, and the plastic turns to junk that won't stay in one piece long enough to pull the decal loose. Color fade depends a lot on color of paint, and quality of paint. All paint fades in the sun. Some colors are notorious. Plus, the gluing agent can leave traces in the paint or can directly attack paint when not clear coated. The better the glue, the harder it is to remove a decal, and some decals can grip paint so well that removing the decal lifts the paint (not to mention that some vehicles these days are not very well painted -- look at some of the GM and Dodge products with chalked and lifted paint after only a few years). A heat gun can help lift decals, but it is almost never pretty.

There are pros and cons to each. My point is only that high quality decals intended to be permanent are not easy to remove and should be considered to be not all that much different from paint in the first place.
Maybe if he was removing old graphics off of an 85 Bronco II then I could see him having issues but the material used now versus then is much better.I have had the joy's (frustration) of removing old decals these aren't meant to be permanent they have a life of about 4-5 years and will need to be removed and replaced. At which point a heat gun will be used to loosen the adhesive and off comes the vinyl. Hopefully with both of our points he can make a sound decision.
 

The BN Guy

Expedition Leader
That spawns a question that maybe off-topic...does using a heat gun endanger the paint on our vehicles? I know obviously if it gets too close it will but any heat be harmful?
 

madizell

Explorer
I wouldn't expect the heat from a heat gun to damage paint, which should have been baked anyway. If you can still handle the parts, the paint is okay with the heat.
 

ntsqd

Heretic Car Camper
As a point of reference about 15 years ago I bought a '67 Ranchero. Came to me painted white. It had some "lacquer check" in it and the time came when it was time to repaint the car.
Apparently this car had been some sort of service call vehicle for Southern California Gas Co. The "flame" decal was still very visible once the top layer of paint came off. I'll second the "nothing known to man" comment. Serious professional auto body shop paint striper did not even touch the paint which had absorbed the glue from the decals on the doors. Even 36 grit on a 'Mud Hog' worked really hard to get that stuff off the doors.

True flat paint is porous. It won't last long before grabbing dirt etc. into it's pores and becoming rather difficult to clean. If that's not important, then......
If it is important then you need to find the local paint & body shop supplier. There is a particular paint made for exactly this use. California's CalTrans uses it on the hoods of all of their large trucks. It's not cheap, but it will last and not be a haven for dirt, grime, and car wax.
 

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