The era of the 100 is here.

[DaveInDenver]

Maybe somebody can explain to me why a IFS is a bad thing in an expedition vehicle?

No argument from me. ;-) But then again, I'm not 20 anymore and my iron butt is getting soft.

 

[kcowyo]

A leaf sprung solid axle would beat you half to death and leave you in kidney failure over a long stretch. I can't comment on a coil sprung SA since I haven't done a long trip in one.

Oh, and I love kitties! :removeredX:

 

[Pskhaat]

Maybe somebody can explain to me why a IFS is a bad thing in an expedition vehicle?

Simplicity of the live axle setup in case of problems. That and the whole articulation thingy; I know IFS can do serious wonders, but I still fly a good wheel on many mild trails in the 100 where the 80's tires would be planted the whole way.

And KC, coil sprung live front ends drive amazingly well.

 

[upcruiser]

Going from my FJ60 to my FJ80 felt like going from a tractor to a magic carpet. I think the ride is great, especially with the OME setup. I've yet to sample a 100 yet but am seriously considering one this fall. I'm looking for a new (used) daily driver. My main candidates are a 7.3 Powerstroke Ford, 1st gen Tundra, or a 100 series. If the 100 is as sweet as everyone proclaims, it might be the one.

 

[Pskhaat]

FJ60 to my FJ80 felt like...100 yet but am seriously considering one this fall

Moving into a 100 from an 80 is the same difference as into an 80 from a 60 is the same as into a 60 from a 55. It's that drastic.

 

[upcruiser]

What do you think of the 100's stock suspension settings? I've read elswhere that some feel its a bit underdampened compared to the 80 series offroad. I'm looking for a daily driver but also want to use it to get off the beaten path, and probably have it loaded down pretty good on trips. Looking to keep it as stock as possible though.

 

[Pskhaat]

What do you think of the 100's stock suspension settings?

I went OME springs in both the 80 and the 100 not really for a lift per se but rather to run a little bigger tire (for no real good reason) and most importantly because wherever we went we were dragging ass in both trucks. I think you'll find the 100's rear springs a little weak in terms of load ability.

I run 863s in the back of the 100, and did put the OME tbars in front. Without front modifications like a bumper or winch etc, I wouldn't have needed the OME tbars, the stock would have been fine; I find the OME tbars a little stiff without a big bumper up front. The 863s perform well for us given our half-heavy load.

It should be noted however that I find the 863s on the 80 series to be too light for similar use. Just anecdotally, no science behind that one, and makes no sense whatsoever considering the respective vehicle weights.

 

[spressomon]

I went OME springs in both the 80 and the 100 not really for a lift per se but rather to run a little bigger tire (for no real good reason) and most importantly because wherever we went we were dragging ass in both trucks. I think you'll find the 100's rear springs a little weak in terms of load ability.

I run 863s in the back of the 100, and did put the OME tbars in front. Without front modifications like a bumper or winch etc, I wouldn't have needed the OME tbars, the stock would have been fine; I find the OME tbars a little stiff without a big bumper up front. The 863s perform well for us given our half-heavy load.

It should be noted however that I find the 863s on the 80 series to be too light for similar use. Just anecdotally, no science behind that one, and makes no sense whatsoever considering the respective vehicle weights.

It sounds like you need firmer springs for your 80...here ya go:

http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=170293

 

[Pskhaat]

It sounds like you need firmer springs for your 80http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=170293

Indeed, I have 864s in my 80 now but have very much considered the 868s.

 

[rusty_tlc]

Simplicity of the live axle setup in case of problems. That and the whole articulation thingy; I know IFS can do serious wonders, but I still fly a good wheel on many mild trails in the 100 where the 80's tires would be planted the whole way.

And KC, coil sprung live front ends drive amazingly well.

Base on one trail fix to my 100, a broken front diff, I would say extra complexity is not a problem. As far as birfields vs cv axles, not much difference there either. A field swap on a birfield may be faster but a correct remove and replace is not much different in terms of time.

If it comes to articulation I have an FJ40 for trails that are to much for the 100.

I just need to pick the right tool for the job.

 

[LC/LR4Life]

Long live the hundy!!
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