The MaxiMog in the Discover Magazine!

toylandcruiser

Expedition Leader
It is indeed worth a look. I had a Unimog with the right engine, transmission, transfer case, etc. and did, in fact, take it more than 150 miles from home. But I don't recall any interest from the Museum of Modern Art, Discover Magazine or the like. :(

He might better have left "Mog" out of the name, but trashing a run-of-the-mill Mog to make a innovative, one-of-a-kind, world famous vehicle seems completely compatible with custom vehicle building protocol. Customizers have never been reluctant to lose functionality to increase uniqueness, and I don't know that it makes any more sense to disrespect the Maxi-Mog for being a lame off-roader than to disparage the Dodge Tomahawk for handling way worse than a stock Ducati.

Unimogs do not have a transfer case :)


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762X39

Explorer
Unimogs do not have a transfer case :)

Mike is quite familiar with what Unimogs have or do not have and he likely mis-spoke. His Unimog was quite unique (like a Mog isn't unique anyway). The transmission and transfercase are one unit (in my 404 anyway and likely in others as well) which is one reason why it is better to leave them as is rather than try to "improve" them.:coffee:
 

toylandcruiser

Expedition Leader
Mike is quite familiar with what Unimogs have or do not have and he likely mis-spoke. His Unimog was quite unique (like a Mog isn't unique anyway). The transmission and transfercase are one unit (in my 404 anyway and likely in others as well) which is one reason why it is better to leave them as is rather than try to "improve" them.:coffee:

I have one as well. So I know what I'm talking about :)


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10-G-0200NA Disassemble and assemble transfer case 14.12.01


TRANSMISSION 718.840 in MODEL 405.210 /230
for USA/Canada only





1 Transfer case
2 Bearing cap nut
3 Drive gear tapered roller bearing
4 Spacer washers
5 Bearing cap
6 Intermediate gear
7 Intermediate gear tapered roller bearing
8 O-rings
9 Intermediate gear shaft
10 Bolts of retaining disk
11 Retaining disk
12 Driven gear tapered roller bearing
13 Front axle output shaft
14 Rear axle output shaft
15 Inter-axle differential
16 Shim
17 Front axle output shaft housing


My WIS (workshop information system) thinks there is a transfer case part of the transmission. But what does Mercedes know about the Unimog?

Charlie
 

toylandcruiser

Expedition Leader
10-G-0200NA Disassemble and assemble transfer case 14.12.01


TRANSMISSION 718.840 in MODEL 405.210 /230
for USA/Canada only





1 Transfer case
2 Bearing cap nut
3 Drive gear tapered roller bearing
4 Spacer washers
5 Bearing cap
6 Intermediate gear
7 Intermediate gear tapered roller bearing
8 O-rings
9 Intermediate gear shaft
10 Bolts of retaining disk
11 Retaining disk
12 Driven gear tapered roller bearing
13 Front axle output shaft
14 Rear axle output shaft
15 Inter-axle differential
16 Shim
17 Front axle output shaft housing


My WIS (workshop information system) thinks there is a transfer case part of the transmission. But what does Mercedes know about the Unimog?

Charlie

Then you come show me genius where it is on my truck.


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HumphreyBear

Adventurer
Don't feed the troll, there is a thread over on Mud where the same guy (flighht2k5) was similarly unable to parse the difference between married/integral and independent transfer case types. I suspect he making a point that exists only in his own mind, that integral transmissions with married transfer cases aren't 'real' transfer cases, and I suggest we let him carry on being 'right'. Especially given his response to confusion and confoundment is to become abusive and snide. BTW I suspect that Charlie probably is a certified genius, just a genius who doesn't tolerate fools kindly.

Given the choice of believing Mike or Charlie and, well, most other people, I'll take Mike, or Charlie, or John, or ... well the rest of the motoring world.
 

mhiscox

Exp. Leader Emeritus
Mike is quite familiar with what Unimogs have or do not have--for better or worse ;)--and he likely mis-spoke.
Thank you for the defense. It's much appreciated.

As for whether Camper Mog had a transfer case, I'm going to continue to think it did, even if it didn't have its own separate housing. If it walks like a duck, etc.
 

toylandcruiser

Expedition Leader
Don't feed the troll, there is a thread over on Mud where the same guy (flighht2k5) was similarly unable to parse the difference between married/integral and independent transfer case types. I suspect he making a point that exists only in his own mind, that integral transmissions with married transfer cases aren't 'real' transfer cases, and I suggest we let him carry on being 'right'. Especially given his response to confusion and confoundment is to become abusive and snide. BTW I suspect that Charlie probably is a certified genius, just a genius who doesn't tolerate fools kindly.

Given the choice of believing Mike or Charlie and, well, most other people, I'll take Mike, or Charlie, or John, or ... well the rest of the motoring world.

Funny when you go order one it's labeled as a transmission

http://www.expedition-imports.com/product/CRTRAN/Crated-Transmission---Core-Charge-Included.html



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toylandcruiser

Expedition Leader
Thank you for the defense. It's much appreciated.

As for whether Camper Mog had a transfer case, I'm going to continue to think it did, even if it didn't have its own separate housing. If it walks like a duck, etc.

So I guess my forester has a t case as well huh? Hhmmmm interesting. I'll have to talk to Subaru about how o order one see how at that goes.


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mhiscox

Exp. Leader Emeritus
After seeing that Greg Trent's article focused primarily on the 404, perhaps I see the problem.

There is a difference between the six-speed transmission in virtually all petrol-powered 404s and the broad range of transmissions in the imported-into-the US collection of diesel powered Mogs, the most common being a 4-speed/dual range box to which additional gearsets were often added.

My 416 Mog had the 4-speed box with separate high and low ranges. MaxiMog derived from a Unimog U90, which is a highly-customized truck (legal in the US only for off-road use, generally farming) that also often came, at a minimum, with the 4x2 transmission. I believe those of us who were defending the "transfer case" nature of Mog transmissions were thinking of the transmission that was likely taken out of the U90, not of the integrated six-speed in the 404.

So if, by chance, the issue is whether a 404 Mog has anything closely resembling a transfer case, I think we'd all agree it does not. If the issue is whether the MaxiMog originally had a transmission with a integral section that functions as a transfer case, at least some of us (me, at a minimum) will continue to claim it does. The two positions do not overlap and thus there may be no actual disagreement. (He said, optimistically.)
 
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