Tire decision help

[Kaisen]

The Montero has IRS? Cool.

I sure wouldn't mind a 4-corner independently sprung rig. I thought that was only in an Expedition or a H1 or that big Nissan SUV.

There are a more modern IRS 4x4 SUVs than have solid rear axles. Some unibody, some with frames.

 

[magoh76]

The Montero has IRS? Cool.

I sure wouldn't mind a 4-corner independently sprung rig. I thought that was only in an Expedition or a H1 or that big Nissan SUV.

Only the 3rd generation and later (2001 and later the US).

 

[huntsonora]

It's my industry, education, and profession, for the last couple decades. And my passion, for a lifetime.

What did you do for a living? What company are you with?

 

[Kaisen]

What did you do for a living? What company are you with?

I'll leave it that I do not directly work for any manufacturer, and I'm not here in any official capacity.
On an automotive forum, everyone's an expert. Even when they're not.
My opinion is worth exactly what you paid for it. Read what I have to say, read the supporting material, and decide for yourself.
Eventually you figure out who's full of crap, and who you may disagree with but generally respect their position.

 

[redthies]

Couple all of this with the sad reality that the Montero is ALREADY known as "a complete disaster on the road and dangerous and rolling over on every corner"


Guys, do what you want. You will anyways. But don't be blind to how different tires will change how your vehicle behaves. If you're willing to make those compromises in safety to (maybe) benefit in certain off-road conditions, do so fully aware of the potential consequences.

Who are you quoting? If the Montero were "rolling over on every corner" surely there would be none on the road as they would all be in the scrap yards.

Now where is that dip %#^+ emoticon?

 

[Kaisen]

From what I can see the Xterra in all models is listed as taller than the Montero, and only weight about 10% less, the other factors I cant comment on.

All that I was trying to allude to, as well as others who differ from your opinion, is that just because you switch your tires from 265 70R16 to 235 85R16 it doesn't meant that all of sudden his Montero will turn into complete disaster on the road and be dangerous and rolling over on every corner.
Will he notice a difference, of course, they are different sized tires, but you just adjust to the new tires, notice the limitations and move on. It isn`t quite nearly as dramatic as you suggest.

In the end run what you feel is safe, and what you think looks good, everyone else`s opinion is just that

Who was I quoting? mortonm (see above)

 

[huntsonora]

I'll leave it that I do not directly work for any manufacturer, and I'm not here in any official capacity.
On an automotive forum, everyone's an expert. Even when they're not.
My opinion is worth exactly what you paid for it. Read what I have to say, read the supporting material, and decide for yourself.
Eventually you figure out who's full of crap, and who you may disagree with but generally respect their position.

Well, whether you are in the industry or not people can be anybody they want to be on the internet. Every forum has their "experts"

I fully agree that you can agree or disagree and still respect their position but I think there has to be reciprocation in that regard. You speak almost in absolutes. I don't feel that you do not take into account that every application is different. Different vehicles, different use, different everything yet if it doesn't fall into what you feel is right you speak to people like they're idiots. IMO you sell yourself short when you do that because nobody wants to listen to a person that talks to them like they're idiots.

 

[Kaisen]

Well, whether you are in the industry or not people can be anybody they want to be on the internet. Every forum has their "experts"

Which is why I don't bother disclosing. When it comes to automotive forums, the fourteen year old who has never driven a car could be the "expert" the sheeple follow.

I don't feel that you do not take into account that every application is different. Different vehicles, different use, different everything yet .....

Yet..... if you'd carefully read my posts (here and elsewhere on ExPo) this is EXACTLY what I've said all along. It's not the tire size, it's the exact tire, and the exact vehicle application and intended use.

 

[huntsonora]

Which is why I don't bother disclosing. When it comes to automotive forums, the fourteen year old who has never driven a car could be the "expert" the sheeple follow.



Yet..... if you'd carefully read my posts (here and elsewhere on ExPo) this is EXACTLY what I've said all along. It's not the tire size, it's the exact tire, and the exact vehicle application and intended use.

Well, if you don't feel like you talk down to folks and come off like a complete jack wagon regardless if your wrong or right then carry on

 

[redthies]

All that I was trying to allude to, as well as others who differ from your opinion, is that just because you switch your tires from 265 70R16 to 235 85R16 it doesn't meant that all of sudden his Montero will turn into complete disaster on the road and be dangerous and rolling over on every corner.

Oh, you (Kaisen) must have meant MIS-QUOTING.

 

[redthies]

Well, people can be anybody they want to be on the internet.

Cool! Today, I am Bond, James Bond :elkgrin:

 

[no-pistons]

Keep in mind, a vehicle's suspension is a system and your 1996 Disco wouldn't be as affected by a 215/85R16 tire as a 2001 Montero, now would it?

Oh is that what we are talking about here? Haha I figured it was just another thread where you come in talking down to people assuming we are all idiots for either running narrower tires or driving a Toyota when we could get a Chevy for cheaper. Carry on then.



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[Kaisen]

Oh is that what we are talking about here? Haha I figured it was just another thread where you come in talking down to people assuming we are all idiots for either running narrower tires or driving a Toyota when we could get a Chevy for cheaper. Carry on then.

Fair enough.

Just giving the non-sheeple something to actually think about. Otherwise we'd all be driving used Toyotas with LT255/100R16E Coopers, disconnected swaybars, a little OME lift, 1200 pounds of ARB bumpers and Warn winches, the must-have ARB snorkel, 200 pounds worth of "expedition duty" things we might use on the roof, and talking about how we wished it was an Australian market diesel 5 speed.

 

[Co-opski]

Fair enough.

Just giving the non-sheeple something to actually think about. Otherwise we'd all be driving used Toyotas with LT255/100R16E Coopers, disconnected swaybars, a little OME lift, 1200 pounds of ARB bumpers and Warn winches, the must-have ARB snorkel, 200 pounds worth of "expedition duty" things we might use on the roof, and talking about how we wished it was an Australian market diesel 5 speed.

I'll take the above please but in Alaska we are not Toyota tax exempt, so stuck in a used Nissan. :elkgrin:

 

[UHAULER]

Sometimes I find your posts funny and I am thinking the same thing, like this post. You forgot about limb risers, preferably attatched to the roof rack behind and under the 9" lights. Other times you sound like know it all jackwagon. I think most people on this site understand that modifiying a vehicle will affect handling and performance, yourself included, after all you are running bigger tires on your suburban.

Fair enough.

Just giving the non-sheeple something to actually think about. Otherwise we'd all be driving used Toyotas with LT255/100R16E Coopers, disconnected swaybars, a little OME lift, 1200 pounds of ARB bumpers and Warn winches, the must-have ARB snorkel, 200 pounds worth of "expedition duty" things we might use on the roof, and talking about how we wished it was an Australian market diesel 5 speed.