Water purifying

pugslyyy

Expedition Vehicle Engineer Guy
Jon,

That looks neat.

-- Can you use table salt or must you buy their tablets?

-- Is it fast enough to fill a tank, or do you use it to fill a drinking bottle.

Just for the record, salt is the active ingredient in Sodium Hypochlorite, aka, bleach.

You just use common table salt.

I've used it to purify 5 gallons at a time - and in Central America we used it for cleaning vegetables and fruits (put them in water that we then dosed)

It is a very handy unit in an extremely compact package. I keep one in my "bugout bag" and depending on the day will take it on hikes so I don't have to haul as much water.
 

pugslyyy

Expedition Vehicle Engineer Guy
Wow that is an interesting way to purify water. Any after taste?

Very slight salty taste (because it does not completely convert 100% of the NaCl). You can smell the Chlorine when you dose, but after letting it sit not taste it.
 

Turtle59

Intrepid Wanderer
Very slight salty taste (because it does not completely convert 100% of the NaCl). You can smell the Chlorine when you dose, but after letting it sit not taste it.

What an amazing wealth of knowledge and experience available on here. All we have to do is ask the right question and the answers come flying.
 

LeishaShannon

Adventurer
We have the standard 2.5 x 10 "twin" filter setup with a 20 micron strainer + 5 micron carbon filter outside treating all water, while the drinking tap is supplied by a separate tank plumbed with a seagull IV.

We're currently looking at RO systems like http://www.h2oonthego.com.au because we can carry months worth of food but only 350L of water which lasts a week or so when we're showering daily. Packing up the truck to drive and get more is painful when you're in a good spot.

They're somewhat expensive initially but I like the idea of being able to make drinking water from sea water or otherwise non-potable water. There are a few issues to sort out like getting the unit close enough to the water source and still providing power (~1.5kw) but I think it should be doable.
 

DzlToy

Explorer
For long term, vehicle based travel, the simple solution is to re-use the same water over and over again. This eliminates concerns with the source of your water, time and/or cost to find it, time to purify it, etc.

Sink and shower basins drain into a holding tank, but instead of being held for dumping (gray water), it is slowly filtered and dumped back into a fresh water tank. Systems using these principles have been around for decades and are used on a commercial scale the world over.

Once the water is run through the system, the only filtration required is what you put into it. This means filter the water once, use it to wash your hands and when it goes back into the gray water holding tank, it doesn't magically have heavy metals, giardia, cryptosporidium or polio in it. So, there is no concern over filtering these out.

Lifeline, Diercon and Sawyer all make filters to 0.1 micron. Pre-filters to remove food particles, dirt, hair, etc., before the finer filters are clogged up, would be required. Very little water is consumed using this type of system and 350L (92 US gallons) would provide water for months on the road, with only an occasional "topping off"

Never understood why people wanted to "consume" water, when it can easily be filtered and re-used over and again. This applies whether you are in a vehicle or a municipal waste water treatment facility. How many places in the US have water "shortages"? Do they treat their waste water and re-use it or dump into into a river or ocean? Filtration sources can even include seawater or urine from healthy human beings, which is about 90% water, with the rest being uric acid and salt.

http://worldhousingsolution.com/water-sewer-systems/
 
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GeoRoss

Adventurer
I use Polar Pure. It is essentially a rechargeable saturated iodine solution. It doesn't have an iodine taste.

Sadly, it is off the market. Tweakers can use it I guess to cook meth.
 

mog

Kodiak Buckaroo
l also like Polar Pure.
You can still buy it
Polar Pure Website
Polar Pure via Amazon

This was posted about 2 years ago (source is not confirmed):
...I would like to thank everybody for all there support, it was an unfortunately long process due to the "meth heads" that were using iodine, the same chemical used in polar pure, to make crystal meth. This caused the DEA to create much strictness regarding the sale and purchase of iodine.
Polar pure has been in negotiations with the DEA for approximately 4 years and we are now happy to say we are back in business with limited restrictions.
One of the restrictions regarding consumers is that polar pure must be sold directly to consumers which is why we began selling them direct to consumer on amazon.com with an authorized distributor by the DEA.
The second restriction imposed on consumers is the quantity per purchase. A customer may purchase as many bottles of polar as they see fit however we are only allowed to ship 1 bottle per customer per day. So if a customer purchases 5 bottles of polar pure we would ship 1 each day and the customer would receive 1 each day as well. We apologize for this inconvenience however it is a strict rule enforced by the DEA...
 

TwinStick

Explorer
Either one of these: a) http://store.infowars.com/Propur-G20-Big-With-ProOne-G20-Filters_p_1257.html ................ b) http://www.bigberkeywaterfilters.com/berkey-water-filters.html will do you just fine. You can get small, medium or large ones. Adding just the right amount of bleach after filtering, to be uber sure. The Emergency Services uses these in many disaters, in 3rd world countries & here. Even when there is water, water everywhere but not a drop to drink. They work, period. They have cleanable filters. No hoses or pumping is involved. What more could one want ?
 

1aquaholic

Adventurer
Ok here is my plan, let me know where I'm going wrong. I've welded up two 40gl stainless tanks. I got one of these http://www.reelcraft.com/catalog/product_search.aspx?search=A5835 OLBSW23&category=water with 35 feet of this on it https://www.mcmaster.com/#5393k43/=155rzjk with a maybe 300 micron floating screen soction of some sort on the end. The other end is going through this before the pump https://www.summitracing.com/parts/aar-ac-6000f then to maybe this pump unless I can find a better one http://www.seaflo.us/product/diaphragm-water-pump-51-series/ then through this http://doultonusa.com/doulton_water_filters/Whole-house-ceramic-water-filter.php to the tanks. Then from the tanks to this guy http://shurflo.com/marine-products/...-ii-standard-fresh-water-pump-12-vdc-23-0-gpm for shower and sink and one of these http://doultonusa.com/doulton_water_filters/Imperial-high-flowrate-RegentI.htm under the sink for final drinking. Like the ceramic so I don't have to carry a box of filters just clean them once in awhile. Thoughts?
 
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S2DM

Adventurer
Ok here is my plan, let me know where I'm going wrong. I've welded up two 40gl stainless tanks. I got one of these http://www.reelcraft.com/catalog/product_search.aspx?search=A5835 OLBSW23&category=water with 35 feet of this on it https://www.mcmaster.com/#5393k43/=155rzjk with a maybe 300 micron floating screen soction of some sort on the end. The other end is going through this before the pump http://www.weldonracing.com/store/!/10-Micron-Stainless-Filter-Assemblies/p/56589010 then to maybe this pump unless I can find a better one http://www.seaflo.us/product/diaphragm-water-pump-51-series/ then through this http://doultonusa.com/doulton_water_filters/Whole-house-ceramic-water-filter.php to the tanks. Then from the tanks to this guy http://shurflo.com/marine-products/...-ii-standard-fresh-water-pump-12-vdc-23-0-gpm for shower and sink and one of these http://doultonusa.com/doulton_water_filters/Imperial-high-flowrate-RegentI.htm under the sink for final drinking. Like the ceramic so I don't have to carry a box of filters just clean them once in awhile. Thoughts?

You're going to want an expansion tank after the pump. Most pumps come with an option to have an integrated expansion tank on a mounting plate, if not you can just order one separately. It is basically a pressure reservoir and keeps the pump from cycling constantly.
 

SkiFreak

Crazy Person
You're going to want an expansion tank after the pump.

I think what you are referring to is called an accumulator, not an expansion tank.
With many of the water pumps that are available in the market these days, an accumulator is not mandatory, as the pumps are an "on demand" type.
Having said that... in my own setup I run two accumulators for the exact reason given by S2DM. With an accumulator in the system the water pump will run longer, but less frequently. The accumulator will also maintain pressure within the system, which allows you to use ceramic type taps. Ceramic taps need pressure to maintain a seal.
Personally, I believe an accumulator is a good addition to an RV water system and I base that on my background in hydraulics.
 

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