Yaesu ATAS-120 system

jeroen110NL

New member
What do you suggest? Tuner or ATAS120A (or both)

I am currently operating the 857d only on the vhf and uhf bands but I would like to start using the HF bands aswell. (maybe get in to contact with some of you guys)
When I go camping I would like to use the 857d as a base radio but I also want to be able to use HF when I'm driving with a duplexer? Is it a good option to use the ATAS when I'm mobile and use the tuner when I am camping and use a wire antenna.
Greetz J :safari-rig:
 

J_L

Observer
I'm going the two antenna route for moble, eliminates the need for the duplexer. Just haven't decided between the atas-120 or a set of single band hamstick type antennas. The regular screwdriver antennas are way too bulky for my taste.

For camp, a dipole for 75 meters and a tuner should get you on all the HF bands with more efficiency.
 

gary in ohio

Explorer
I would never go with the atas as the only antenna. Its a comprise HF antenna and an even more compromise UHF/VHF antenna. Go with a gain vhf/uhf and then use the atas for HF.


Most screwdrivers dont cover past 10m, some cover to 6m. Few cover VHF/UHF>
 

J_L

Observer
I sprung for the atas-120 system for my ft-857, I'll post up some pics of the installation in a couple of days.
 

gary in ohio

Explorer
Well if the ATS120 isnt right there are lots of full size screwdriver antenna's available. most antenna systems are good to 40m, its when you need 80 or 160m that a mobile system often falls flat.
 

Corey

OverCamping Specialist
Any pics on the setup?
I am currently getting the 857D before to long, but already ordered a Diamond antenna for the ARB bumper up front to use on 2 m and 70 cm.

After I try that for a bit, I want to get the Atas-120 and the duplexer to mate it to the two antenna ports on the 857.
 

Corey

OverCamping Specialist
Orderd my Yaesu 857D today and the Diamond MX-62M.
The Duplexer will allow the ATAS-120A to plug into the duplexer, then the two lines to the 857D, and allow it to operate on all the bands the radio can do.
Otherwise I would have to run two antennas.

I will sell the Diamond 2 m 70 cm antenna I bought at a later day after I install the ATAS.
 

gary in ohio

Explorer
I would prefer 2 antennas. The ATS will make a crappy antenna on vhf/uhf. Its only a mediocre antenna on 10,15,20, just barley usable on 40 and worthless on 80m , Your dual band antenna and ATS as separate antennas would be the better way to go.
 
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Corey

OverCamping Specialist
Thanks, I will keep that in mind.
Going to run out of room for antennas though.

The Diamond I am installing tomorrow is the Diamond NR770HA with a GLP58 to mount to the ARB bumper.
I will have to enlarge the 3/8" hole for a CB antenna to 1/2" to accommodate the mount.
 

xtatik

Explorer
gary in ohio said:
I would prefer 2 antennas. The ATS will make a crappy antenna on vhf/uhf. Its only a mediocre antenna on 10,15,20, just barley usable on 40 and worthless on 80m , Your dual band antenna and ATS as separate antennas would be the better way to go.
Yes and no. I'd have to admit I haven't experimented with mine on 10, 15 and 80m because of the band conditions but, I have used it extensively on 20 and 40.
This past weekend I used it to make contacts on both bands during the CQ DX contest and hit Hawaii (31) @ 58, Japan(25) @ 55, Puerto Rico(8) @ 57, New Hampshire(5) @ 57, and numerous others throughout the contiguous states and Mexico. These contacts were made at leisure while driving between birdhunting stops, he, he..... I was multi-tasking! Now, that's not bad for a "compromise antenna", which BTW, is where all mobile antenna's rank. I use a Hi-Q 3/80 here at home due to HOA restrictions, and yes there is a difference. The Hi-Q's are far and away the best in "screwdriver type" antennas. But, weighing convenience and performance, the ATAS does a very respectable job on these two most commonly relied upon HF bands.
As for FM use, I don't much care. It works fine for hitting machines out to 40-60 miles, or yacking up and down a column of trucks during our trips. Personally, I would not rely on VHF in a crappy situation in our remote desert areas or in Mex.
On last years DV trip I was lucky if I could hit Potosi, Silver Peak or Mazourka. I was only able to hear them in brief occasions and could not break squelch and get a tone except on two of those occasions. This was using a Yaesu Ft8900r with a Diamond Cr8900r... a very well matched rig. That taught me quickly that I needed the upgrade, and much more reach.
Another benefit to the ATAS, and this is just my opinion, is that it is lighter than the High Sierra and Tarheel drivers and seems less prone to vibrating itself to death on severe washboard (Saline Valley!). With 2"-2.5" coils, they are probably higher Q than the ATAS, but they would rattle apart in my opinion. I may eventually look into another Hi-Q for the truck. They are also heavy, the heaviest in fact. They are much better built than the more popular screwdrivers and of a different design. They are mounted to military vehicles around the globe.
If my ATAS takes a crap I may or may not replace it with a Hi-Q. The ATAS convenience factor weighs heavy!
 
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