You can never have too much Recovery Gear!

boellis87

Observer
The tow truck vid shows what CAN happen when anchoring off of another vehicle, but that thing had everything working against it. The back boom would have easily lifted the front of the truck with no issues for the frame (minus the 3-ton weight hooked on the front). The truck would have easily handled the forces applied had they been in a relatively straight line. In a normal situation, if the winch cable doesn't break before your truck frame even thinks about permanently deforming, you either need to get a new truck, or make a few million selling your new indestructible winch line.

The rear springs looked to be extremely stiff (good for towing, but not good for this situation) forcing a higher fulcrum point which increased the angle made between the Disco and the Chevy that met in the middle of the Ford's frame. The height of the boom and it's mounting position on the frame didn't help things here either. Even with the severe angle they were working with, the frame might have survived had they been able to keep the torsional load to a minimum. Along with the slight off-camber angle the truck was sitting at, I think what broke the proverbial camel's back was the extra torque applied to the frame when the driver hit the gas harder (also applying even more leverage on the frame). It most likely buckled the frame sideways much like how a thin flat piece of wood is hard to break when totally upright but will easily snap when slightly twisted.

A simple rear mounted winch at bumper height would have been much better for this situation since the boom doesn't do anything to help with pulling force. All it did was enable the winch to apply a ridiculous amount leverage on the frame.

Long story short, a decent truck with a decent (non rusty) frame should easily stand up to the pulling force applied by a normal off-road winch. Granted it should be applied in a fairly straight line, I really doubt you would have to worry about stretching the frame. Bending it or possibly tearing through a mounting hole might be more likely though if the forces are applied badly.

FWIW
 

crusader

Adventurer
In my younger, stupider days, my truck was a late 60s Jeep M715 military truck, which I BADLY burried in an enormous water-covered mudhole out in the middle of nowhere in SC. There was only 1 towing company in town that would go out to this area an pull people out and boy did they know it ($300 cash in advance!)

Anyhow, unlike the tow truck driver in the video, this guy was a pro and knew what he was doing. He took the cable off the boom and ran it through a snatch block attached to his rear tailboard, put some decent tension on the line then took a pressurized air hose with a 2-foot wand over to my burried truck's wheels, stuck the wand down through the mud at the base of each wheel and squirted air in there, breaking the suction of the mud around the tires. My truck popped right out and was easily dragged from its watery, muddy prison. He did in 10 minutes what 3 trucks couldn't do the day before.

I look back at this and consider the $300 as tuition for a great course in vehicle recovery.
 
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R_Lefebvre

Expedition Leader
That is brilliant!

I once spent about 2 hours, alone in the bush trying to rescue my motorcycle from the mud pit in which it was stuck. It was lying on it's side, and the suction prevented me from standing it up. I ended up having to drag is sideways across the hole. That day sucked.
 

ldivinag

Adventurer
They offered, but we wanted to continue with our day. The owner of the F350 said that if he had any cash, he would have given it to us, but all he had was a card.

I wasn't doing it for money, but at least he offered.

i used to joke when people would say, "all i have is a credit card"...

i would say, "oh good, i have my manual credit card imprint machine in the car..."


lol....

and yes, i help people out for the sake of helping them out. and i always tell them, the next person they help maybe me... ;)
 

SAR_Squid79

Explorer
I noticed the OP carries a transit cluster. What do you guys think about getting one? http://www.surfcitygarage.com/detail2.php?product_id=157

This makes the 4th time I've had to use it because someone got stuck and had NO RECOVERY POINTS.

If you didn't have the transit cluster, you'd have to resort to putting a strap around an axle, crossmember, or frame. None of those options are safe, and all of them are likely to lead to damage of the vehicle or your recovery gear.

I bought mine straight from MAC's.
$15.95
http://www.macscustomtiedowns.com/product/87/All
 

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