FNG " MK75" Build Thread !

GrassCat

Adventurer
Who makes manuel hups for gen 2 (2.5)? Im interested in the increase in fuel economy! Where can I get some and how difficult to install are they?

Is this a trick question?

If not my bad.

I guess you've never heard of the stock Aisin Manual Hubs for the Gen 1's and the 4x4 pickups? You may get better fuel mileage, but I bet you won't notice it.

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DR1665

Gearheads United
Who makes manuel hups for gen 2 (2.5)? Im interested in the increase in fuel economy! Where can I get some and how difficult to install are they?

From what I've read about this subject - mostly on Planet Isuzoo back when we had an Amigo - switching to manual hubs can result in slight improvements in fuel economy (on the order of 1-2mpg in most cases) because the front driveline components are not engaged and rotating while the vehicle is in motion, as can be the case with auto-locking hubs.

I want to say I've also seen it said in the Mitsubishi community that we don't really have this "problem," so the real benefit to switching to manual hubs is A) more secure, consistent engagement when off-roading (something to do with reverse, if memory serves), and B) improved driveline longevity through simplified running gear.

Hope this helps. Something else worth mentioning to my fellow rookie brothers, make a point of watching the Top Gear "Bolivia Special" before you go crazy spending thousands on mods. One of the things about owning a Mitsubishi 4WD is how incredibly capable they are right out of the box. I plan on getting my little fun cooker healthy and happy and STUCK before I decide I need any more mods.

Press on.
 

off-roader

Expedition Leader
From what I've read about this subject - mostly on Planet Isuzoo back when we had an Amigo - switching to manual hubs can result in slight improvements in fuel economy (on the order of 1-2mpg in most cases) because the front driveline components are not engaged and rotating while the vehicle is in motion, as can be the case with auto-locking hubs.

I want to say I've also seen it said in the Mitsubishi community that we don't really have this "problem," so the real benefit to switching to manual hubs is A) more secure, consistent engagement when off-roading (something to do with reverse, if memory serves), and B) improved driveline longevity through simplified running gear.

Allow me to elaborate here. The Mitsu Montero/Pajero Gen 2 has a Cental Axle Disconnect (CAD) system instead of the Gen 1's auto/manual hubs which it uses to disconnect the front drivetrain from the transfer case front output shaft. Buy disconnecting the front drivetrain this way, the axles will continue to turn whenever the wheels are turning.

By also disconnecting the axles from the front hubs, you effectively allow the wheels to continue spinning without the axles spinning. This results in reduced axle, CV joint, & bearing wear.

As far as the reason you upgrade a gen 1 to manual hubs (the auto hubs already disconnect the axles reducing similar wear), you're right as well. It is done for improved reliability. The manual hubs are much more reliable and easily rebuild able. The Auto hubs, not so much.

def also concur on driving and upgrading as you go along if you aren't already an avid mitsu 4 wheeler. Unlike many other 4x4's the Montero is already very capable out of the box and some upgrades may even be downgrades if you're not careful.

HTH.
 

mk75

Adventurer
Needed Temp Gauge Help ...

Everyone,

So today I get a call from my mechanic today telling me that my top end rebuild is done. Well he calls me and says " did that thermostat work before you gave me the truck ? YES .... So the rebuild is 100% done other than the fact he says that guage is not seeming to work now.. All other gauges work 100%.. Simple fix or gremlin? He seems stumped a bit after running dianostics. What could he have missed or done wrong ?

My mechanic said that he would get it figured out.. Just curious if any of you have run into something like this issue before ?

Thanks ,
MK75 / Oregon
 

off-roader

Expedition Leader
Did you/he use the wrong thermostat sender? It needs to be the kind for a gauge and not a high temp idiot light.
 

mk75

Adventurer
Back from shop... YEAH

Everyone,

So got back the truck today from the rebuild. Hopefully things will be trouble free for some time. So I thought since this is a build thread that I would list what all was needed to be done at 167000 miles with this rebuild. Also is there anything that I should be watching for while this motor gets kinda broken in again ?

Resurfaced Heads
24 New lifters
replaced 2 bent intake valves

Head Gasket set
new head bolts
Intake gaskets " upper and lower"
Timing belt, Timing Belt , Timing Idlers, Timing Tensioner
Valve Cover Gaskets
Water Inlet gaskets
0-Rings
Thermostat & Gasket
Exhaust manifold gaskets
NGK irridium plugs " lets see if I actually get 100,000 "
Water Pump
Egr Gaskets
Exhaust Collector gaskets
 
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mk75

Adventurer
Off Road Jack ....

Going out to Eastern Oregon Alvord Desert/Mann Lake area this weekend to go camping . Went to the storage unit to aquire my trail jack .. It seems to have disappeared into thin air. Point being I need to purchase a new jack and tire repair kit. I dont have much experience and thought I could take a crappy spare and learn to use the new kit.

Suggestions on tire repair kits ?
Inflatable jack or go the traditional trail jack route ?
Do any of you actually use an inflatable jack ?
 

off-roader

Expedition Leader
Going out to Eastern Oregon Alvord Desert/Mann Lake area this weekend to go camping . Went to the storage unit to aquire my trail jack .. It seems to have disappeared into thin air. Point being I need to purchase a new jack and tire repair kit. I dont have much experience and thought I could take a crappy spare and learn to use the new kit.

Suggestions on tire repair kits ?
Inflatable jack or go the traditional trail jack route ?
Do any of you actually use an inflatable jack ?

Never used one but from what I've seen Inflatable Jacks look pretty nice but are also $$$$. IIRC a HiLift is about 1/4 the cost. With various accessories, it will be less than half the cost.

I have an ARB tire repair kit. Is a fine kit. There are others too. Earlier this year Overland Journal did a Tire Repair kit review & comparison choosing one of the other kits as the preferred kit. I can look that up later if you don't have that issue or don't subscribe.
 

mk75

Adventurer
Well thanks for the advice .. Ok so I talked with some guys in OZ and they were telling me save my money. It was suggested that I dont waste my money on a $$$$ inflatable jack by like ARB for example. It was suggested to me that I buy for example a chinese copy of the arb. http://rv4x4.en.alibaba.com/.. There were a couple of companies suggested to me.. So the arb is a couple of hundred bucks and I can get a Clone " meaning made in the same factory as the ARB or similar brands and like half the price or cheaper.

I dont subscribe to OJ and I know that I should .. Please send me what you have ....
 

off-roader

Expedition Leader
Well thanks for the advice .. Ok so I talked with some guys in OZ and they were telling me save my money. It was suggested that I dont waste my money on a $$$$ inflatable jack by like ARB for example. It was suggested to me that I buy for example a chinese copy of the arb. http://rv4x4.en.alibaba.com/.. There were a couple of companies suggested to me.. So the arb is a couple of hundred bucks and I can get a Clone " meaning made in the same factory as the ARB or similar brands and like half the price or cheaper.

I dont subscribe to OJ and I know that I should .. Please send me what you have ....

There is a whole other side to ordering typically illegal clones which I won't go into. Yeah, to me the inflatable jack could probably work for certain situations but I already have my far cheaper HiLift which is a proven solution so I'm fine with it. I'll have to look up the article and get back to you later.
 

mk75

Adventurer
Lifts/suspension Help .

So In the last couple of days I have been sourcing parts for my build after buying tires " 31 10.50 15 .. I was about ready to pull the trigger on buying an " Old Man Emu " setup last night . I know alot of you are running different set up's and I have looked at some of your build pages with similar year montero's. I know the OME stuff is well enginered and built to take a beating. Should I pull the trigger or could someone with experience with OME give me an honest take on things. I figure one of you on here has run lots of different lifts / suspension set up's . So is Old Man Emu worth the price or look at another brand like Iron Man ?

Thanks posts everyone...
 
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Inyo_man

Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.
Should I pull the trigger or could someone with experience with OME give me an honest take on things.

The OME suspension has worked well. I started out with the HD set up in front and the Med. duty in the rear, but ended up swapping out the rear for HD.
It rides beautifully when fully laden at all speeds (no sag). Although, if you mind a stiff ride around town, the HD may be too much.
 

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