AZ - FR18 - Red Creek Trail - Tonto National Forest

toddz69

Explorer
Last week an old Bronco buddy called to tell me he had traded his 911 Turbo for a new FJ and was eager to get out on the trails again. I had been wanting to run FR18, known to long-time central AZ backcountry explorers as "Red Creek", for a long time and with the trail's impending closure, we decided to venture out to test the FJ and see some great country as well. We were joined by our friend Doug, another Bronco buddy, and his nephew Andrew, riding Polaris quads instead of Doug's Bronco.

This was our vehicular lineup, staged on Bloody Basin Road (FR269), just east of I-17.

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I'm not a fan of quads, but on today's run they proved to be quite handy once we reached the actual trail of interest. The trip east was rather uneventful, with the usual scourge of heavy dust nearly non-existent due to a fairly heavy rainfall a day or two earlier. We passed numerous hunting groups glassing far-away hills looking for game. At one point we stopped for a break and temporarily detained this small animal. Note what's coming out the back of this beast - apparently humans aren't the only ones that are scared xxxx-less.

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One highlight on FR269 is cresting over the pass and seeing this beautiful view of Bloody Basin in front of you:

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Bloody Basin draws its name from a skirmish between some Apaches and U.S. soldiers at Turrett Peak in 1873. In earlier times, the Hohokam had a presence in this area as well.

I depended on my memory (dangerous) to find the right turnoff for the trail and since I hadn't run it in probably 12 years or more, we did make one wrong turn which cost us a 45 minute delay. Thankfully, I think I was the only one crabby about it and after some backtracking we found the correct turnoff.

Traveling a few miles north on FR18 north of FR269, the descent into Red Creek is suddenly upon you and aired down tires and low range are the order of the day.

Shortly after dropping into the creek, your trail looks like this:

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Here the quads came in handy, as the aforementioned rains had obliterated some of the route a day or two earlier. We sent them on ahead to check trail conditions as the Bronco and FJ lumbered on behind. After about 100 yards of crawling down the creek, Alex wisely decided to park the FJ and jumped in with me for the the rest of the day. Not worrying about clearance or paint eases one's mind.

From here, the trail continued east, in and out of the creek, with more water in our path than I've ever encountered on previous trips.

Here are a few cell phone photos from the route.

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Unfortunately, from here to the river, we just drove and didn't get out to take pictures. The order of the day was plenty of brush, tight turns, and a few slippery pools that were deeper than I expected. Unfortunately, full-size vehicles just don't fit on this trail very well. Anything larger than a JK would have some challenges.

The trail itself is probably 4-5 miles long in the creek.

The rewards at the end, where Red Creek empties into the Verde River, are some great views of the Verde, beautiful camping spots in the trees, and plenty of areas to explore. Much of the surrounding area is wilderness.

The Verde:

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I climbed a nearby hill to find some old grave markers I remembered finding years ago. I couldn't find them amongst the abundant Native American diggings on the hill but I did find this interesting grave:

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On a nearby mesa is, of all things, a remote airstrip (you can find videos on youtube of pilots landing there). Much to my surprise, there was a plane parked at the strip when we were there. I'd never seen one there before:

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An overhead shot of our group:

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I was pleasantly surprised to find the trail in the condition I did. It appears to have escaped the ravages of heavy ATV/4 wheel traffic which has worn down many of our trails in AZ in the past decade. Whether its relative remoteness, frequent 'erasure' due to water flows, or some other factors at play contribute to it, I'm certainly glad to see that it appears to be remain rather wild and remote.

I don't know when the Tonto National Forest will officially "close" it, but I'd like to lead an ExPo run on it sometime later this year or early next year if folks are interested. It'll be a long day trip from the Phoenix/Prescott areas.

Anyone interested?

Todd Z.
 
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1leglance

2007 Expedition Trophy Champion, Overland Certifie
Great writeup and pics....and thanks for the alert on the full size vehicle issues as that helps those of us who run big long toys

Lots of water and green stuff which is always fun to see in Az.
 

RHINO

Expedition Leader
I was pleasantly surprised to find the trail in the condition I did. It appears to have escaped the ravages of heavy ATV/4 wheel traffic which has worn down many of our trails in AZ in the past decade. Whether its relative remoteness, frequent 'erasure' due to water flows, or some other factors at play contribute to it, I'm certainly glad to see that it appears to be remain rather wild and remote.


couple notes on this,, the trail sees a fair bit of traffic, it was completely washed out a couple years ago from heavy flooding. i went in right after that with my land cruiser and spent about 3.5hrs one way getting through, it got worse as i went as the other little flows and creeks washed into it, the drops from the "trail" into red creek were over 5ft at places and two of them worried me about getting back out w/o some work.

as i see these pics and a few others it looks like its gotten worn back into a proper nice little trail again. it is on the to be closed list, not sure when it will happen but it seems its a done deal, on the plus side FR41 is slated to re-open soon, i really like that run as it gets you to a nice fishing spot on the verde.
 

mkitchen

Explorer
I would like to do the run

Todd, count me in if you decide to do the run again, I am thinking that my Tacoma should fit through ok? It would be better for me to do it next year but if you plan another trip this winter let me know early enough and I will try and get time off to do it.
Mikey
 

toddz69

Explorer
couple notes on this,, the trail sees a fair bit of traffic, it was completely washed out a couple years ago from heavy flooding. i went in right after that with my land cruiser and spent about 3.5hrs one way getting through, it got worse as i went as the other little flows and creeks washed into it, the drops from the "trail" into red creek were over 5ft at places and two of them worried me about getting back out w/o some work.

as i see these pics and a few others it looks like its gotten worn back into a proper nice little trail again. it is on the to be closed list, not sure when it will happen but it seems its a done deal, on the plus side FR41 is slated to re-open soon, i really like that run as it gets you to a nice fishing spot on the verde.

Thanks for the trail info. Yes, I imagine the rains do quite a bit of re-arranging of the topography when they roar through the canyon. One reason I think it looked so "clean" this time was because of the rains a day or two earlier.

Isn't FR41 the trail that runs from the Table Mesa Rd. exit east to the Seven Springs Rd.? It sounds like maybe you're describing FR42, the old telegraph road, that was closed years ago due to fire/erosion in the area?

Todd Z.
 

toddz69

Explorer
Todd, count me in if you decide to do the run again, I am thinking that my Tacoma should fit through ok? It would be better for me to do it next year but if you plan another trip this winter let me know early enough and I will try and get time off to do it.
Mikey

Mikey - I'm unsure whether the Tacoma would fit or not. There were a few places where I dragged my rear bumper and just about kissed my rockers with the Bronco and your breakover and departure angles are probably lower than mine. Of course, by the next time we try the trail it could be totally different and you may have no problem! I'm certainly willing to give it a try. The whole time I was driving the trail I kept thinking of Lance's Suburban and Mark's Cactus Red and whether they could scoot through. I'll revise my estimate and say maybe they could with some good spotting and careful driving. Brush scratching is a given on this run so I wouldn't want anyone to get upset about branches screeching down the side of your truck.

Todd Z.
 

RHINO

Expedition Leader
LOL todd, yeah i meant FR42, telegraph.

my taco dbl cab has been through red creek a few times, just need to pay attn in spots, there are pull out spots where you could hike the rest of the way in if you wanted, nice easy hike.
 

LandCruiserPhil

Expedition Leader
Could a sportsmobile make to a decent riverside camp spot?


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For river side camping you would need to run the full trail, trail ends at the river.

Couple areas along the trail that might be tight for a full size rigs (photos from ~Jan/2012)
 

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RHINO

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the first obstacle (second pic from phil) is easy to get to and a short distance in,,, use it as the gatekeeper for the rest of the trail, if you dont want to make that then i'd say turn around.
 

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