New Ford Tremor

[phydough]

I like the Tremor. Would I buy one, no, it just isn't for me. Kermit is right (shiver) though, lower it or raise it.

 

[bloodyWEST]

i always though a stripped down raptor would sell well, 2wd, long travel, small v8, std cab 6.5' bed, if they made it "look" cool like that tremor but keep the price down to 25-30k

or just the raptor suspension on that truck...:drool:

just a dream

 

[Rbertalotto]

Amazing! 365HP from a V6.........This was Indy type stuff just a few years back!

 

[XRrider]

I personally went from a RC F350 to a SC Ranger to a CC F350. The SC Ranger was the 2nd biggest let down vehicle I've owned. It drove fine and the wife and kid an I fit fine but the cargo space was too limied and for its size and power the milage was unaccepable. With the FX4 4.10:1 and limited slip it was fun in the snow and did acceptable burn-outs though.

Not true

Ford sold 70,832 Rangers in their last full year of production

In 2012, Toyota sold 141,365 Tacomas
In 2013, Toyota is on pace to sell 161K Tacomas.....a 20K unit increase

In 2012, Nissan sold 55,435 Frontiers
In 2013, Nissan is on pace to sell 57K Frontiers.....a 2K unit increase

In 2012, Ford sold 645,316 F-series
In 2013, Ford is on pace to sell 719K F-series.....a 73K unit increase

So the Tacoma and Frontier are up a combined 22K units, and Rangers accounted for 71K lost units, and you think that's where they went

But the F-series is up 73K units (more than the entire Ranger lost sales), and you don't think Ranger buyers bought F150s........hmmmm

 

[Clutch]

Amazing! 365HP from a V6.........This was Indy type stuff just a few years back!

or rally cars in the 70's & 80's...365hp is pretty tame compared to some of those, they were pushing around 600 hp.

 

[zeke2.0]

I've heard Ford will split the line. A 4 wheel independent suspension version primarily for street driving and the standard solid rear axle for work/farm/offroad, but with significant improvements.
Since so many people are buying full size trucks as their primary vehicle and not for off road use, the manufacturers are responding to the market.
Dodge was the first to respond with the coil over 1500.
For Ford...I've heard various names but basically the return of the F-100 label for the 4wis version.
And yes, I do know someone at Ford.

btw,I think the new FX4 version of the Tremor could be turned into a great overland vehicle with the right add-ons. Everything I've been reading on here is "shorter is better" it's wheel base is 126 inches.

 

[rkj__]

I've heard Ford will split the line. A 4 wheel independent suspension version primarily for street driving and the standard solid rear axle for work/farm/offroad, but with significant improvements.

Interesting. That's the first I've heard of that.

 

[Clutch]

Interesting. That's the first I've heard of that.

There was a SEMA truck built by FST Motorsports a couple years ago.

Link

 

[Buliwyf]

The Ranger existed because it was cheap and useful for people who didn't need a more expensive truck, but a car was too little.
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People that needed a wheeler, but wanted small, bought a Tacoma. Keep in mind that Tacomas at the dealers I was just at, cost as much as a 6.2L F350 XL 4x4 SC LB! The GOOD little trucks ain't cheap by any stretch. You can pay $36k easy for a Taco or Wrangler. The Ranger never was a competitor for the Taco or Titan.
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Now that the Ranger costs as much as an F150.....why bother selling it. Ford made the right decision. Still I'd rather see a Longbed regular cab F150 with standard suspension, cheap steel wheels, 285/75 r17 tires and the Raptor fenders and grill. (A cheapo Raptor farm truck?)
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Quality full independant suspension is going to be $$$. Mass produced solid truck axles are darn near free to the factory.

 

[rkj__]

Still I'd rather see a Longbed regular cab F150 with standard suspension, cheap steel wheels, 285/75 r17 tires and the Raptor fenders and grill. (A cheapo Raptor farm truck?)

That would never happen. It would "cheapen" the look of the Raptor. Nobody wants to buy an expensive purpose built off road truck that looks just like a cheapo farm truck.

 

[zeke2.0]

Interesting. That's the first I've heard of that.

Information is starting to get out to the dealer channel. Still lots more to come, plus I mis spoke/posted.

Honda ridgeline is the first "truck" to get 4 wheel independent suspension several years ago (I forgot I actually owned one.... Irish whiskey and getting senile).
I was designed by the guy who designed the Chevy Avalanche pickup. Ridgeline is still selling strong for a Honda. Though some might argue whether it's a true truck, it has a legitimate 1500 lbs cargo capacity and 5K lbs towing.

 

[Kaisen]

Honda ridgeline is the first "truck" to get 4 wheel independent suspension several years ago ..... Ridgeline is still selling strong for a Honda. Though some might argue whether it's a true truck, it has a legitimate 1500 lbs cargo capacity and 5K lbs towing.

You're kidding right? Last year they only sold 14K of them, and they're on similar pace this year. GM sold a lot more VOLTs than that!!
Ford sells almost FIFTY TIMES that number of F-series.
The Ridgeline is the worst selling pickup made today, and the worst selling in the last decade.
Just facts, not even mentioning an opinion of the truck.

 

[Clutch]

You're kidding right? Last year they only sold 14K of them, and they're on similar pace this year. GM sold a lot more VOLTs than that!!
Ford sells almost FIFTY TIMES that number of F-series.
The Ridgeline is the worst selling pickup made today, and the worst selling in the last decade.
Just facts, not even mentioning an opinion of the truck.

How many Fords are fleet sales?

 

[Kaisen]

How many Fords are fleet sales?

I don't see how that's relevant, but F-series fleet sales hover at about 25%

Since they sold ~650K F-series last year, about ~160K were fleet and 490K were retail consumers

Of the 160K fleet, most are large companies/corporations, municipalities, and governments.....less than 5% of F-series are daily rentals

However, if 5% of F-series are rentals, that's 32K units..... more than double the number of Ridgelines sold, total. In fact, Ford's F-series sales to daily rental alone are still about the same as total Honda Ridgeline and Nissan Titan sales combined.

 

[Clutch]

I don't see how that's relevant, but F-series fleet sales hover at about 25%

Since they sold ~650K F-series last year, about ~160K were fleet and 490K were retail consumers

Of the 160K fleet, most are large companies/corporations, municipalities, and governments.....less than 5% of F-series are daily rentals

However, if 5% of F-series are rentals, that's 32K units..... more than double the number of Ridgelines sold, total. In fact, Ford's F-series sales to daily rental alone are still about the same as total Honda Ridgeline and Nissan Titan sales combined.

I was just curious. Thought Ford fleet sales are more like 32%?

The Ridgeline is a completely different animal to a F150 though. Would think it is closer to the Toyota Tacoma DCSB, Ford Sport Trac or the GM Avalanche, do you know what are those sales numbers are off-hand compared to the Ridgeline?