2014 Tundra

[Clutch]

I look almost every day...problems is most in PHX/Tukson are RWD...hard to find local...most 4wds are up in CO

not much need for 4WD here...


are you looking for a double or crew cab? years? 05 had the most powerful engine IIRC

 

[Flagster]

The 1st gen had a true crew cab and a full 6' bed IIRC...this is what I would look for.
I like the tundra crewmax but only a 5.5' bed or something right...
I thought that might be a change for 2014 but I don't think so. I'm pretty sure ford does the fx4 package with crew cab and 6.5' bed as an option...locker...I know most will spout off...just put in a locker...but If I am dropping 35-40K on a new truck I want that as a factory option...just me...I try to spend as little time in my garage dinking around with my truck...

 

[Clutch]

The 1st gen had a true crew cab and a full 6' bed IIRC...this is what I would look for.
I like the tundra crewmax but only a 5.5' bed or something right...
I thought that might be a change for 2014 but I don't think so. I'm pretty sure ford does the fx4 package with crew cab and 6.5' bed as an option...locker...I know most will spout off...just put in a locker...but If I am dropping 35-40K on a new truck I want that as a factory option...just me...

the new chevy's look awfully nice...so does the ram.

you can get a stripped down F250 for damn near the same price as a Tacoma

I try to spend as little time in my garage dinking around with my truck...

yes, awfully nice just to turn the key and go...less time in the garage the more time on the trail with the dirt scooters.

though a man needs some projects to keep from going completely bonkers

 

[Kaisen]

While I agree with some of the negative aspects posted here, there still isn't another 1/2 ton truck that can approach the durability of this platform.

How do you figure? The 2007-current Tundra has not had a stellar record. Certainly no better than any other 1/2 ton pickup.

 

[bjowett]

The 2007 is one of the worst years for the Tundra, yet it still has fewer problems reported than the big 3 for that model year. According to the many of the larger firms, like JD Power, the Tundra is the most reliable 1/2 ton truck. It's a HD 1/2 ton, this is so because it is based on Toyota's Land Cruiser 200 chassis... the other 1/2 tons don't stack up in component size.

 

[daveyboy]

I am not fan of the new hood/grille at all, but it could always grow on me. I also would have liked to have seen a more extensive refresh.

But I have been extremely happy with my 2008 Tundra. Real world MPG isn't too bad.

If I were to buy a new pickup today, I would likely buy another Tundra or a 3/4 or 1-ton.

 

[Kaisen]

The 2007 is one of the worst years for the Tundra, yet it still has fewer problems reported than the big 3 for that model year.

Ah, no. Not true. Which publication(s)? Prove it

According to the many of the larger firms, like JD Power, the Tundra is the most reliable 1/2 ton truck.

The most recent JD Power Dependability Study (released 2013 - based on three year ownership of 2010 vehicles) awarded the GMC Sierra as the most reliable 1/2 ton truck
Same with 2010 (first year the new Tundra would have shown up in the study), 2011, and 2012.....The Tundra was NOT #1, but still in the top three

It's a HD 1/2 ton, this is so because it is based on Toyota's Land Cruiser 200 chassis... the other 1/2 tons don't stack up in component size.

I'd be interested to hear exactly which components have proven to be stronger and last longer, rather than just larger

Frame? No, that's a well-known weakness in the current Tundra. Google it. Compared to the Big Three it's weak sauce, and flaccid

Transmission? No, Toyota chose to torque-multiply the truck with the ring and pinion rather than the transmission, choosing very small (weak) 1st and 2nd gear. 4.30s are necessary because of that choice. Tundra transmission failures are as common as Ford or GM

Rear axle? No, except for the aforementioned 10.5" ring size, the axle housings themselves are fairly weak

Wheel bearings? No, they are roughly the same size as other half tons, and only semi-floating (where the big 3 offer HDs with full floaters)

Transfer case? No, even Toyota knows this and finally went to a US-sourced Borg Warner transfer case (same as F150's) for the 2014s

Brakes? Again, it's how they perform. And they are the worst of the current bunch:

I like the Tundra. But part of its lack of success the marketplace has been it's lack of reasons for success. It's not a more robust truck, it's not a more dependable truck, it's not a better truck. In fact, I think Ford, Ram, GM, Toyota, and Nissan are all good trucks. And even Nissan (the oldest by far) is still competitive with the Tundra.

I'm only pointing this out because Toyota fanboys tend to be rabid with their unfounded belief that Tundras are somehow better trucks when there is plenty of evidence that they are no more or less reliable/dependable as any other half-ton truck.

 

[Kaisen]

 

[daveyboy]

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Tires stop a vehicle, not brakes. The Tundra was the only pickup in the test you quoted on a differrent tire--put the same tires on them all load them up/hitch up a trailer and brake over and over and over--that will test who really has the best brakes.

Do you know why Toyota changed transfer cases? For all we know the new BW transfer case is a marginal POS and it was purely profit based.

 

[Kaisen]

^

Tires stop a vehicle, not brakes. The Tundra was the only pickup in the test you quoted on a differrent tire--put the same tires on them all load them up/hitch up a trailer and brake over and over and over--that will test who really has the best brakes.

Do you know why Toyota changed transfer cases? For all we know the new BW transfer case is a marginal POS and it was purely profit based.

They all had different tires (no tread choice the same), different tire sizes (Ram had 275/55R20s, GMs had 265/65R18s, Nissan had 275/70R18, Ford had 275/65R18s, Toyota had 275/65R18s). Whatever, Toyota chose tires (and other variables) that led to greater stopping distances. So Tundras simply don't have "better brakes".

As tested, the Toyota weighed 380 lbs more than the GMC. I think that may have played a greater role than tires, but there's a lot more to braking than just rotor size -- that was my point. The current Tundra has never had the shortest stopping distances. Brake fade when towing has been about the same as the F150s, and both are decent.

If the 2014's Borg Warner transfer case is a "marginal POS" and was done to save a buck or two, then doesn't that say something about Toyota? Either Toyota decided it was a better TC, or they penny pinched.

 

[Ryanmb21]

Some good tech in here

 

[Clutch]

I am not fan of the new hood/grille at all, but it could always grow on me. I also would have liked to have seen a more extensive refresh.

When it is color coded, it doesn't look too horrible.

 

[bjowett]

Kaisin, I appreciate a good respectful debate, so I'll argue my points as time allows over the coming days. I do feel there is tons of misinformation floating around... so with a little patience, I hope to show that the 2nd generation Tundra is well built truck that can dish it out and take it.

 

[huntsonora]

it's weak sauce, and flaccid

We're talking about trucks Kaisen :victory:

 

[Clutch]

Kaisin, I appreciate a good respectful debate, so I'll argue my points as time allows over the coming days. I do feel there is tons of misinformation floating around... so with a little patience, I hope to show that the 2nd generation Tundra is well built truck that can dish it out and take it.

Slightly off topic, did you ever finish the IRS on yours? That thing is bad flippin' ********!