off-roader
Expedition Leader
I like that idea instead!
What is my Monty worth?
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m3at333hp
Adventurer
If I decide to keep it, I am going to take off the DynaPro MT's. They are 32x11.5x15. I don't want to go 100% weak on the tires. I am think just the standard BFG A/Ts. Opinions?
Also, what would be better for daily driving and occasional, mild off-roading: 33x10.5 or stick with 32x11.5? Also for gas mileage, if a size makes a difference.
Thanks
Also, what would be better for daily driving and occasional, mild off-roading: 33x10.5 or stick with 32x11.5? Also for gas mileage, if a size makes a difference.
Thanks
4D55 Performance
Explorer
In the end it is a 16 year old vehicle. Because of the it's age, it's value is greatly diminished. The going rate for a 16 year old Montero is about $3000 give or take a few hundred.
m3at333hp
Adventurer
Yeah, I am aware of that and not expecting to sell it for more than I paid. I did still drive it two years. The only reason I asked, is I have seen them going anywhere from $1700 (which is almost a crime fore the shape mine is in), to close to $5000. I am just saying what asking prices I have seen.
I am leaning more towards keeping it at this point.
I vote for this as it sounds like yours has a lot of life left with the current mileage and the maintenance work you've performed.
If you sell it though, I think you're looking at $3500-4500, depending on the motivation of the buyer and your truck's particular condition.
As far as a more modern replacement vehicle with similar attributes...body on frame, factory locking rear, 7 passengers, 16-20 mpg...I don't think there is one. Keep it.
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m3at333hp
Adventurer
I wish mine EVER saw 20 MPG. Between the lights on the rack that act like a parachute, the tires, and my heavy foot, I usually see around 16. I might keep it until 2015, since rumor has it, Chevy might release the Colorado in a Turbo Diesel! 2.8L is the rumor. I wish Toyota or Nissan would bring a diesel offering stateside. All that torque in a smaller truck! Great for off-road and way better gas mileage. Imagine if we got the Monty in the turbo-diesel!
We are the major country lacking in diesel options due to stricter emission laws. (insert many political issues here).
I would almost venture it has less to do with stricter emission laws, than it does with a lack of interest from your general consumer. I think with VW, Audi, BMW (I think) pushing the diesel state side we might see more in the years to come. Plus a good portion of people who would buy diesels now that don't have the horrible memories of GM Diesel, i.e A 350 that kinda runs on diesel...
Plus to add is the "noise" of a diesel which is now almost gone. And yes the cost may be slightly higher to build a US Diesel, but it would I think be worth it for whom ever decides to make the first move.
m3at333hp
Adventurer
I test drove a Golf TDI in manual and fell in love with it. It is rated at about 42MPG highway, but read stories all over about it getting 50+ MPG highway. I know that Chevy is coming out with the Cruze in diesel this year, but for the price, you might as well get the Eco model. The ROI would be wayyyyyy to high to opt for the diesel there (IMHO).
I agree with you that a lot of people think loud and black smoke with they think of diesel and that is unfortunate.
off-roader
Expedition Leader
Let them keep thinking that. Will drive down the prices of used TD's on the market.
That said, I hear they're also bringing the Audi TDI's to the US including their flagship A8 TDI. This is the one that Top Gear was able to get 50MPG :Wow1: out of on a trip from the UK to Scotland and back.
m3at333hp
Adventurer
They have had the Q7 with a TDI option stateside already. An A8 in TDI sounds sweet, though! I need to look up that episode...:smiley_drive:
off-roader
Expedition Leader
Season 4, episode 4: London to Edinburgh and back (800 miles) on one 20 gal tank...
Main challenge: Clarkson finds out if he can drive a V8 TDi Audi A8 from London to Edinburgh and back on one 20 gallon tank of fuel (a round-trip distance of 800 miles, requiring an average of 40 MPG), destruct-testing Audi's claims of good overall economy in their large, powerful executive car. He tries to drive the car uncharacteristically economically, removing unnecessary weight, not running anything but essential electrical equipment, and never once exceeding 1200 rpm in the 4.0 litre, twin-turbo super-saloon. Though he seemed to have finally run out of fuel 35 miles short, the trip computer (and Audi themselves) underestimated the efficiency potential of its diesel engine and Clarkson's fastidious driving, and he eventually made it to the same filling station he started from on a single tank of fuel. Jeremy completed the challenge after two whole days on the road (with an overnight stop), using plenty of dramatic music and lines from 24 and Apollo 13.
MontyMcV
Observer
The average consumer's interest is often heavily influenced by marketing. Socio-political policies come into play as well. And in our incestuous, crooked, money-hogging petro-based economy, the fuel companies are the ones who wield the influence. Europe has two types of diesel, one for autos and one for big rigs. They are taxed accordingly for the toll they take on the roads. In the US we only have one diesel, the big rig taxed. Car diesel in EU is generally less $ than gas, by a decent bit. My work colleagues in Belgium drive Audid and BMW TDIs, mostly 6s and 5-series, with sticks of course. They are very nice rides...
nckwltn
Explorer
there is actually another type of diesel that many farmers run in their farm machinery. As far as I understand, it is basically the same diesel, except that it has red dye so that officials can easily determine if you are running the lower taxed diesel where you shouldn't be.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_off-road_diesel_and_highway_diesel
Still, I can see how it would make more sense to have a higher tax on diesel for 18-wheelers and a lower on a passenger automobile.