A lesson learned....Stay away from Platinum Motorsports in KY

tgreening

Expedition Leader
in the manner which he "more or less" fixed the problem?

i was born at night, but it wasn't last night!


No, in the manner of his memory may be more or less correct re his online involvement.

I own a business. I also know you cant watch an employee 24/7 and there is a certain levle of trust necessary in order for it to all work. I also know that sometimes that trust gets betrayed and you dont know about it until a dissapointed customer is on the phone. I'm still responsible, but that doesnt mean I set out to stick it to my customer. What really counts is what I do to rectify the problem when it comes to light.

The guy gave an explanation, and contrary to popular belief the "ex employee that just got fired " is not always a line of bull. MI've fired that guy more than once. He offered to make it right. I say, if the PO so chooses, give him his shot and go from there. Covering your bases goes without saying.

It's easy to jump on the evil business owner band wagon from the comfort of your laptop while kicked back in your easy chair, all the while knowing only part of one half of the story. Torches and pitch forks should stay in the shed.
 

wildorange

Observer
@ithrowwrenches

Firstly, glad to hear your ok in reference to your freeway journey, any further updates from the undermentioned establishment which you dealt with?
 

The Rover Shop

Explorer
I totally agree with TGREENING... If techs are on a flat rate basis they get paid however many hours it pays by the book.. So if he could get paid 2 hours to replace the sensor that only takes 5 mins to pull the bulb he is ahead of the game.. Especially if he is already in his way out... I have always kept an eye on my guys and pretty much know what they are doing 90% of the time, but they also know I would go ballistic if I knew they were doing something like that... At least the owner was man enough to call you and offer to fix it right..ya can't fry him for that..
Disco 1s are notorious for sensor gap issues, the sensor is only a pressure fit into the housing and a loose wheel bearing is enough movement to push the sensor far enough away that it intermittently reads the reluctor ring.. Pull the sensor out of its housing, (sometimes requires some gentle prying on either side) make sure it's not caked with junk and then push it back down until it seats (it makes its own air gap) drive the vehicle and drive somewhere you can put 2 wheels on gravel, grass and 2 wheels on Tarmac and jam on the brakes..you'll know if it working or not..:)....
 

cassidyb45

New member
As an owner of a disco 1 ......the abs is crap disconnect it you will be safer.....and give nate a second chance he really is a great guy to deal with. And the auto business is full of people that would tell you to puss off. At least he is trying.
 
I agree completely that pulling the bulb is a bogus thing to do.
But this thread highlights our dependence on complex electronic systems. A few yrs ago ABS wasn't even an option on cars, it existed only on jet aircraft!
How may of us learned to drive on
ABS vehicles vs pre-ABS vehicles?

Charlie
 

The Rover Shop

Explorer
Yes, but we also learned on cars without fuel injection.. Airbags, air conditioning and on roads that were far less congested and slower speeds..
 

fog cutter

Adventurer
.. It's easy to jump on the evil business owner band wagon from the comfort of your laptop while kicked back in your easy chair, all the while knowing only part of one half of the story. Torches and pitch forks should stay in the shed.

it really is. "click - click"; just like magic.
 

I Leak Oil

Expedition Leader
I'm a firm believer in contacting the business first to get it worked out. I don't understand the whole logic of going nuclear on the 'net first. That doesn't make anyone look good. Usually doesn't fix the issue either as what you get is one version of a story.
 

mtnbike28

Expedition Leader
I agree, the business owner didn't know about the issue (he claims, and his work is backed by others on the forum) and has offered to make it right. I think that is what you should do! Again, I have no dog in the fight, and have never heard of anyone involved.
 

wuntenn

Adventurer
I got my brakes done on my 110 (in winter) by a reputable shop. Picked up and went to drive a long distance in appalling snowy weather. Brakes felt odd. Went under and found a sh!tload of mess with leaking unions and sagging un-secured pipes. Took it back, owner apologized, said his apprentice did the job and explained he (owner) or other senior mechanic normally check-over and test run any jobs but this one had been missed, and they busted a gut getting it done right asap. Bill was discounted. AND next time I went in - apprentice was gone, he'd actually been dismissed as this was a last chance failure. It does happen.

Other not-so-good experience was our smooth running and well serviced Peugeot estate car put into authorized dealer for service and new glow plugs. Sounded odd afterwards = more rattly (for a diesel). A week later on motorway, my partner driving, the engine failed catastrophically at 75mph in the fast lane. Block split in two, rods out the side, all sorts of mess. Luckily we got saved by a driver behind who got the oil in his face and was able to slow all the traffic to let us cross the other lines of traffic and get off the road.

Got it hauled home (to relatives house) and I had a look under the bonnet. What did I find on the glow plugs - two old nuts, two old nuts, two old nuts, one old nut and one new nut. Where did the missing nut go? Inside the engine I suspect. My suspicion is that they pulled the plugs out and dropped a nut inside, then just gave it back to us. Insurer agreed that was likely but said we'd never prove it.

Car went to a big company we saw recommended that replaced engines. That was the REAL start of the trouble. We had the car back briefly and in a terrible mechanical state, took it back and never saw it again for over six months. Getting it back involved armed police, anti-terrorist officers, customs & excise and trading standards staff. Turns out the garage owner and staff all have criminal records, and owner is currently in jail for damaging the spine of a customer who complained, and who he smashed face-first onto his engine block then battered several times with the hood and damaged him severely. Their 'garage' is believed to be a front for all sorts of nefarious doings, so much so that Trading Standards refused to help us as their Risk Assessment meant "we cannot send staff in with you because of the risk to them, you must go on your own". Well thank you!

What this episode revealed about the complicity of big credit card companies in the scam and their failure to assist formed part of a formal complaint to Government which found in our favour and against the credit card company, so although I lost a year of time messing about and pursuing it legally, I won and was reimbursed much to the disgust of the credit card provider.

And to finish - I had my chassis replaced with a galvanized one by a garage run by two young guys. They put washers under every nut, ran my brake lines through clear plastic pipe to protect them. And undertook a multitude of other small things that were not part of the contract, and were not paid for, but just did them anyway because as they said "we like to do a good job and we appreciate your business".

There's all sorts out there.

But - final thought - if the Ky guys have offered to make it right with your brakes - I'd give them the chance to do so. Then report back and give everyone else the good (or otherwise) news.
 
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ripperj

Explorer
Semi related, I took a brand new Mazda in for its first oil change "complimentary!" The tech forgot to put oil in it, I found out 1/2 mile later when the idiot light came on. I walked back to the dealer, they fired the guy on the spot and bought the car back full price. The owner maybe honest, but he needs to keep an eye on his workers, especially if he has one that is new or had issues in the past.
It amazes me that there is no second check on critical work like tie rods and brakes

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mtnbike28

Expedition Leader
Semi related x2 - I had a transmission rebuilt and the lifetime warranty required annual flushes at the installer.... one year I watched them drain, then lower the car and hand me the keys - I said you didn't refill, they argued, I refused to hand them the keys back to start it.... finally the manager came over and checked it.... I was right. Another time, my 40 series Land Cruiser was in the shop for something and when I picked it up, it pulled hard under braking, I called the shop, they claimed they didn't touch any thing brake related, as I crawled under it, they had pinched a hard line with the shops lift arms...

I think that is the problem with a lot of service, made even more necessary with our "unique" vehicles, we have to check behind the "professionals" we pay good money to do a good job.

Semi related, I took a brand new Mazda in for its first oil change "complimentary!" The tech forgot to put oil in it, I found out 1/2 mile later when the idiot light came on. I walked back to the dealer, they fired the guy on the spot and bought the car back full price. The owner maybe honest, but he needs to keep an eye on his workers, especially if he has one that is new or had issues in the past.
It amazes me that there is no second check on critical work like tie rods and brakes

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I Leak Oil

Expedition Leader
But - final thought - if the Ky guys have offered to make it right with your brakes - I'd give them the chance to do so. Then report back and give everyone else the good (or otherwise) news.

The fact that the business has already made the offer, even after being crapped on in various forums, shows a certain level of good integrity. Customer has opted not to take that option. So be it. This is why taking it to the 'net first doesn't make either side look good. IMO...
 

fog cutter

Adventurer
no; it shows a guy trying to cover his butt and do the back-pedal quickstep. "taking it to the net" certainly doesn't make the victim look bad.

i'll bet a cookie the shop labor is north of 85$ an hour. how many mistakes have gone out the door that no one took to the net?

my call would still be to "We're Hungry & Ambulance Chasers Attorneys at Large".

youse guys would be green when ya seen my sportin' in my brand new ride.
 

Colin Hughes

Explorer
Can't agree Pirate, my 1995 had 440,000 kms on it, only failed me once, starter, and I could have bump started it as it was a 5 speed at the time, later swapped in a ZF auto box. The only time it had issues, they were my fault, mainly too aggressive offroad. That said, I did pull the ABS fuse right near the beginning of my ownership but never had to replace head gaskets, etc. Very reliable vehicle.
 

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