jeep-N-montero
Expedition Leader
He is likely referring to the highest point on his independent rear suspension.
How do Gen II's stack up against Land Rover Discovery's?
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He is likely referring to the highest point on his independent rear suspension.
XJLI
Adventurer
I couldn't find a SR not rotted out and with decent mileage within a couple hours drive from me, ended up with a Disco. I love it to death, but if I needed a new truck tomorrow I'd look again for a Gen II Montero. Just something about them that I like. That being said, the Disco ALWAYS impresses me offroad, and the gearing is stupid low. It's super comfortable to be in, I've done a 12 hour drive with it and never felt sore. I'd like the Montero bc it is a little longer and I could sleep in it, and my dad had a 98 Monty Sport with the offroad package when I was younger so I'm a bit nostalgic for the brand. Being able to fit 33s easily and the stock rear locker are a huge plus.
Both trucks are 20 years old and will require tinkering here and there. The thing that turns me off most about the Monty is that it is a timing belt motor.
Both trucks are 20 years old and will require tinkering here and there. The thing that turns me off most about the Monty is that it is a timing belt motor.
toylandcruiser
Expedition Leader
That's still hard to believe.
jeep-N-montero
Expedition Leader
Center line of the hub on a 33 inch tire under load is about 15 inches, if the diff sits above this line then it's possible.
toylandcruiser
Expedition Leader
Cool. That has nothing to do with what's actually under diff ground clearance. The factory rated clearance is like 9". Not 16.
This is how you measure ground clearance top right picture
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jeep-N-montero
Expedition Leader
I don't really give a crap either way, I was simply stating what may be theoretically possible as I do not own a gen 3.
nwoods
Expedition Leader
late to the party here. This question is so loosely defined that it's impossible to answer, but I'll take a swing.
Interior: Disco seating position is terrible and awesome. The height of the seats in relation to the window sill is superb. Tremendous visibility which helps a lot in pinpointing through tight spots on the trail. However, the seats are wedged in tight against the door, leaving very little room for a sizable driver. Legroom is non-existant, though headroom is ample. however, because the seats are too close to the door, you'll bang your head on the window in any cross-axel situation. The Montero is a lot more roomy for the drivers and passengers, but the cargo area is not quite as usable, (though similar in volume). The visibility in the Monty is good, but not exceptional like in the Disco. However, Disco's develop a lot of squeaks and rattles (i.e., character) which just is not evident in the Monty.
Storage: Disco wins hands down. TONS of nooks, pockets, etc... to hold stuff in the Disco. Montero is much more limited here.
Road handling. Montero is much more nimble, and handles quite well compared to the Disco. Transmission is much smoother in the Monty. Off the line, the Disco's V8 helps move it with less drama than the Montero, which requires more skinny pedal. However, in the 3.5 SOHC engine in the Gen 2.5's I feel there is more top end (passing) power in the Monty.
Off road: The Disco wins hands down. MUCH better suspension design, allowing significantly greater articulation. Plus the transfer case and gearing is much lower and advantageous off road, combined with the torque off idle in the V8, the Disco will walk through obstacles that make the Monty look like the USS Minnow in a 3 hour storm.
Durability: Montero wins by a wide, wide margin. Every single aspect of the Montero is designed more robustly than a Disco. From the interior panel clips to the frame to the suspension members to the wiring harnesses. Montero start aging after 200,000 miles. Disco's are working hard after 100,000 miles and need a lot of ongoing fiddly bits and piece work to extend their lifespan to 200,000+ miles.
Parts: Monty parts are stocked in the local AutoZone or PepBoys or Kragen or what have you. Rover parts are available, but must be "sourced". However, off road components for the Disco are widely available from quality sources. Monty's.... not so much.
Interior: Disco seating position is terrible and awesome. The height of the seats in relation to the window sill is superb. Tremendous visibility which helps a lot in pinpointing through tight spots on the trail. However, the seats are wedged in tight against the door, leaving very little room for a sizable driver. Legroom is non-existant, though headroom is ample. however, because the seats are too close to the door, you'll bang your head on the window in any cross-axel situation. The Montero is a lot more roomy for the drivers and passengers, but the cargo area is not quite as usable, (though similar in volume). The visibility in the Monty is good, but not exceptional like in the Disco. However, Disco's develop a lot of squeaks and rattles (i.e., character) which just is not evident in the Monty.
Storage: Disco wins hands down. TONS of nooks, pockets, etc... to hold stuff in the Disco. Montero is much more limited here.
Road handling. Montero is much more nimble, and handles quite well compared to the Disco. Transmission is much smoother in the Monty. Off the line, the Disco's V8 helps move it with less drama than the Montero, which requires more skinny pedal. However, in the 3.5 SOHC engine in the Gen 2.5's I feel there is more top end (passing) power in the Monty.
Off road: The Disco wins hands down. MUCH better suspension design, allowing significantly greater articulation. Plus the transfer case and gearing is much lower and advantageous off road, combined with the torque off idle in the V8, the Disco will walk through obstacles that make the Monty look like the USS Minnow in a 3 hour storm.
Durability: Montero wins by a wide, wide margin. Every single aspect of the Montero is designed more robustly than a Disco. From the interior panel clips to the frame to the suspension members to the wiring harnesses. Montero start aging after 200,000 miles. Disco's are working hard after 100,000 miles and need a lot of ongoing fiddly bits and piece work to extend their lifespan to 200,000+ miles.
Parts: Monty parts are stocked in the local AutoZone or PepBoys or Kragen or what have you. Rover parts are available, but must be "sourced". However, off road components for the Disco are widely available from quality sources. Monty's.... not so much.
howirolla
Campfire Passport
now THAT is a good break down
I am currently in the same type of dilemma with currently owning a D2 but thinking that I want to change up to something with a bit more space due to having 2 kids and a dog that I am travelling with.
I think my main annoyance with the D2 is room and lack of local availability on parts, having something break and then no one having it locally really blows.