Am i reading this correctly? 2016 taco still has rear drum brakes...

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Yes, but they are made from unicorn bones, that have magical stopping abilities.


Never understood the appeal of leather in a vehicle that sees the dirt...but hey, this is the Expedition Portal...where glamping is king.
 

bkg

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Yes, but they are made from unicorn bones, that have magical stopping abilities.


Never understood the appeal of leather in a vehicle that sees the dirt...but hey, this is the Expedition Portal...where glamping is king.

Honestly, I'd rather have leather in a truck... It tends to hold up to spills and dirt better than most cloth. /glamper

Been covered a number of times, but the new Tacoma is about as new as the "new" Tundra... while it has new skin and interior, the base truck (frame, cab, etc) are virtually the same. Engine, transmission, rear diff did get upgrades.
 
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brianjwilson

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Even the numbers on the engine make the term "upgrade" questionable.

But yes, rear drums. C channel frame. Mostly the same truck.

I prefer leather too as it's easier to clean dirt/mud/spills.
 

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Honestly, I'd rather have leather in a truck... It tends to hold up to spills and dirt better than most cloth. /glamper

Wasn't referring to cloth...I like heavy duty vinyl, ya know they kind that gives you 3rd degree burns in the summer, and freezes your bearings off in the winter. Had it in all of
our work trucks, holds up better than cloth or leather. (at least the cheap ******** "leather" that comes in most trucks)

Even the numbers on the engine make the term "upgrade" questionable.

But yes, rear drums. C channel frame. Mostly the same truck.

Honestly, I'd rather have leather in a truck... It tends to hold up to spills and dirt better than most cloth. /glamper

Been covered a number of times, but the new Tacoma is about as new as the "new" Tundra... while it has new skin and interior, the base truck (frame, cab, etc) are virtually the same. Engine, transmission, rear diff did get upgrades.

Nothing ground breaking, what Toyota lacks in upgrades it has QDR... in 10-15 years from now, the owner of the '16 Tacoma will say to himself...ok it has 200,000 miles on it, yeah I can get another 100,000 miles out of it.
 
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Just one of the many reasons my next Toyota will be a 4 Runner. When you get a chance to look at a new Taco look in the drivers door jam. You will find a decal stating the pathetic payload. 1050 for the double cab.

Add a canopy- 150 lbs, sliders- 150 lbs, front bumper and winch - 200 lbs, rear bumper with swing out -175 lbs, camping gear (stove, tent, duffel bags) 80 lbs, you and your honey 325 lbs =1080 lbs. You have just passed the max payload with out a fancy drawer system, fridge, RTT or any recovery gear.
 

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Just one of the many reasons my next Toyota will be a 4 Runner. When you get a chance to look at a new Taco look in the drivers door jam. You will find a decal stating the pathetic payload. 1050 for the double cab.

Add a canopy- 150 lbs, sliders- 150 lbs, front bumper and winch - 200 lbs, rear bumper with swing out -175 lbs, camping gear (stove, tent, duffel bags) 80 lbs, you and your honey 325 lbs =1080 lbs. You have just passed the max payload with out a fancy drawer system, fridge, RTT or any recovery gear.

What about for guys who don't need any of that? I pretty much only need a topper...all my camper gear fits behind the seats of an Access Cab. All the hard off-road stuff I save for the dirt scooter.

'16 ACLB has a payload of 1295#, that is only 335lbs. less than of the Tundra DCSB...seems fine to me.

Though payload aside, I would like that 8' bed of Tundra RCLB. Could put my cot, moto, and camp stuff in there without having to unload and re-arrange things...while in camp mode.
 
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What about for guys who don't need any of that? I pretty much only need a topper...all my camper gear fits behind the seats of an Access Cab. All the hard off-road stuff I save for the dirt scooter.

'16 ACLB has a payload of 1295#, that is only 335lbs. less than of the Tundra DCSB...seems fine to me.

Though payload aside, I would like that 8' bed of Tundra RCLB. Could put my cot, moto, and camp stuff in there without having to unload and re-arrange things...while in camp mode.

Is the 1295 you state from the brochure or the actual decal in the door jam? I noted a discrepancy from the brochure manual and the actual capable weight. If you don't really wheel your Taco and need all the add on then sure its fine.
 

Dalko43

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Yeah the new Tacoma doesn't really impress me....but people keep buying them and so Toyota keeps making them.
 

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Is the 1295 you state from the brochure or the actual decal in the door jam? I noted a discrepancy from the brochure manual and the actual capable weight. If you don't really wheel your Taco and need all the add on then sure its fine.

From Toyotas PDF.

I use mine as a gear hauler to the trailhead, lakes and rivers. Find wheeling in a truck boring and greatly limits where you can go. Its' physical size is more of hindrance than its' payload...don't know how DCSB's guys do it. I don't like RTT's, perfectly fine with sleeping in the bed under the topper, so the 5.5 bed is too short for me.


Most extra/crew cab half ton's payload is around 1600 pounds, so I don't think the Tacoma's is low. Yeah, there is the HiLux, but that is a totally different market than the US's.
 

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Yeah the new Tacoma doesn't really impress me....but people keep buying them and so Toyota keeps making them.

It doesn't impress me either, typical conservative Toyota, but you can most likely run it up to 300,000 miles without much issue. Not sure I would trust the other brands to do that. Toyota knows that, why people keep on coming back.

The diesel Colorado looks good...but not for $40K...since they only have it have available on the higher trim packages. You can get a pretty nice fullsize for that, heck $10K less than that...

Diesel fan boys will buy them though.
 
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