2007 access cab tacoma totaled - first gen Taco DC or first gen Tundra DC?

ToddIanuzzi

New member
I usually hate these threads but here I am. Really indecisive.

So this was my last truck:

i-QJLnRw6-L.jpg


2007 Access Cab 4.0 auto, OME, 255/85s, sliders and CBI high clearance rear. Bought it new, drove it a hard 238,000+ miles with 0 problems. Lots of great trips over the years. I loved the truck but sadly it was stolen and recovered trashed. :( Insurance finally paid and I'm on the hunt now.

We are using it as an opportunity to go 4 door so the dog can have a window. I loved the access cab, but the dog hated it. Just me and the GF and 1 big dog - no kids (and won't be having any). I have narrowed it down to:

-2004 DC Tacoma V6 auto TRD. I have always loved these trucks. Sadly the only one for sale locally is clapped out. I drove it today. It seemed a little underpowered to me. But it was in sad shape so that could be why. The one I am interested in buying is mint and 12 hours away. I just test drove the junker to get a feel for size.

-2006 Tundra DC with a bench seat. Honestly it felt bigger, but it the seat felt just as low as the Tacoma and not much more comfortable. The extra interior space seemed most noticeable in the backseat really, which we don't really care about.

We do 2-3 big trips a year with lots of highway driving followed by a good bit of mild wheeling. Lots of weekend trips. I think either would probably handle everywhere I go offroad. Tacoma I would probably go 235/85 and sliders and maybe try to keep it light, though I did like my CBI bumper.... Tundra I would go 255/85 and maybe air lock the rear.

I guess my main question is, leaning real hard for the 2004 Tacoma right now. I like the look and the size much better. Coming from a 2007 Access Cab, am I going to be real disappointed in power and comfort? I had stock gears, 33s, and all kinds of weight on my 4.0 and it handled it fine - even at 80mph and even pulling mountain passes loaded. Are we going to be noticeably more uncomfortable on long driving days than we were in the 2007? Should I just swallow my pride and get the 'old man' Tundra?
 
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cdthiker

Meandering Idaho
The tundra with the 4.7 in it is damn good rig.
its a 300k motor, plenty of power, not awesome for towing but can handle small stuff just fine.
we had a fleet of these we beat in the desert at a place I used to work at. Chained up the rear and would take them some gnarly places year round handled feet of snow, nasty two tracks, all fine. They rode nice on the highway and most of the time they were carrying 2000 pounds of gear in the bed wayyyyyyy over loaded and they just kept going and going.

Get the tundra.
 

SDDiver5

Expedition Leader
Get the tundra...the extra space will be golden and you will not miss your taco. You'll enjoy the extra power as well.
 

HighPlains

Observer
Ive got an '04 DC Tundra myself and love it. The extra space makes a big difference to me being over 6'. The power is nice too and without much, if any, mileage hit.
 

Leibbrand

Adventurer
Went through a similar trade recently. Went with the tundra limited, interior and engine unquitionably superior to tacoma.
 

DaveInDenver

Middle Income Semi-Redneck
We had a 1991 for many, many years. Tried on a 2001 XtraCab for about a year and settled on this 2008. Never owned a 4 door, so take with grain of salt.

You may feel a little cramped in the Tacoma coming from a 2nd gen. But you drove one so you have a feel for that. They really aren't that much smaller, although you may miss the 6' bed. I know I would. But the interior space I think is more useful on the 1st gen, less plastic, less stuff (for lack of a better word), thinner doors. I'm used to the driving position in my truck now but I remember feeling claustrophobic in my 2008 at first.

The 1st gen Taco will ride more like a small truck. It's not bad, however I find highway miles much easier to take in the 2nd gen. Since you'll be probably putting suspension on it's not really critical but I thought the 2001 was the worst in stock form for handling weight. I have not yet installed my WilderNest on the 2008 to compare. But the 1991 and 2001 both had the 'Nest on with stock suspension and the '91 sat on the overload spring but otherwise didn't feel dangerous. The stock leafs on the 1st gen are pure noodle and the coil IFS didn't help with stability with the weight.

There is no question, the 2nd gen is the best 'wheeling of all my trucks. It's got a bit more weight and doesn't jar me around nearly as much. The 1st gen is good but it's more like a mini truck than a Cruiser. It's a light truck and transmits the trail to you.

Power, you will notice that. The 5VZ-FE is a great motor but the 1GR-FE is definitely more better. IMHO I would not own a 79-95 or 1st gen Taco with an automatic, the engines to me work better in front of a manual. My gut tells me you'll want the supercharger on the 3.4L after driving the 4.0L.

The 1st gen is definitely not as quiet inside as the 2nd gen (and Tundra I assume).

Will you be happy? I dunno, I'm not sure I could back to an older truck now that I can hold a conversation with a passenger and hear the radio on the Interstate. It's definitely not as tiring after a few days on the road. But I'm not young anymore either (45), so there's that.
 
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Clutch

<---Pass
Have an extra Tacoma, felt really cramped when the better half and dog comes along. DCSB Taco, wouldn't be that much of improvement....loose the 6' bed, which I couldn't live without.

I vote Tundra, get the bigger rear seat area, and keep the 6' bed, plus get that nice torquey V8.
 
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Laxaholic

Adventurer
I usually hate these threads but here I am. Really indecisive.

So this was my last truck:

i-QJLnRw6-L.jpg


2007 Access Cab 4.0 auto, OME, 255/85s, sliders and CBI high clearance rear. Bought it new, drove it a hard 238,000+ miles with 0 problems. Lots of great trips over the years. I loved the truck but sadly it was stolen and recovered trashed. :( Insurance finally paid and I'm on the hunt now.

We are using it as an opportunity to go 4 door so the dog can have a window. I loved the access cab, but the dog hated it. Just me and the GF and 1 big dog - no kids (and won't be having any). I have narrowed it down to:

-2004 DC Tacoma V6 auto TRD. I have always loved these trucks. Sadly the only one for sale locally is clapped out. I drove it today. It seemed a little underpowered to me. But it was in sad shape so that could be why. The one I am interested in buying is mint and 12 hours away. I just test drove the junker to get a feel for size.

-2006 Tundra DC with a bench seat. Honestly it felt bigger, but it the seat felt just as low as the Tacoma and not much more comfortable. The extra interior space seemed most noticeable in the backseat really, which we don't really care about.

We do 2-3 big trips a year with lots of highway driving followed by a good bit of mild wheeling. Lots of weekend trips. I think either would probably handle everywhere I go offroad. Tacoma I would probably go 235/85 and sliders and maybe try to keep it light, though I did like my CBI bumper.... Tundra I would go 255/85 and maybe air lock the rear.

I guess my main question is, leaning real hard for the 2004 Tacoma right now. I like the look and the size much better. Coming from a 2007 Access Cab, am I going to be real disappointed in power and comfort? I had stock gears, 33s, and all kinds of weight on my 4.0 and it handled it fine - even at 80mph and even pulling mountain passes loaded. Are we going to be noticeably more uncomfortable on long driving days than we were in the 2007? Should I just swallow my pride and get the 'old man' Tundra?

Where can I pick up those rims? What type are they? Really like them.
 

DaveInDenver

Middle Income Semi-Redneck
Thanks, that's fantastic. Wonder if I could find them used? I'm sure someone here has a set.
If you're patient you can find them on Craigslist. Might take you 6 months or a year to build a set, though. New Toyota wants about $100 so that's not terrible.

Just be aware that there are 16" steel spares from 3rd gen 4Runner and 1st gen Taco that looks very similar. You can tell by the oval hole by the valve stem that it's a 2nd gen spare. The older ones are fine, maybe better for tall and skinny tires since they have less backspace actually. But you want them all to be one or the other.
 

ToddIanuzzi

New member
Dave's right on the wheels. Took me a while to hunt them down but it can be done. Google is your friend.

Man, looks like you guys are pushing me towards the Tundra! I guess the downsides would be outweighed by the upsides. I keep reminding myself that most places I go are often traversed by Superdutys and the like. Most. So the size shouldn't be *too* limiting. It will probably be more of an issue in the city than in the woods in all reality.
 

p nut

butter
100% agreed on Tundra. They're surprisingly capable for their size. Also much more comfortable for highway trips.
 

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