I was driving today and going up steep hill with really sharp corner at the bottom. They put down liquid deicer last night so the road was tad slippery as I accelerated up the hill my right rear tire slipped and all of a sudden it felt like the car died. The traction control light came on and the both my rear wheels were blinking on the dash indicator I few seconds and it took right off up the hill. That's not how it's supposed to work right? I mean slight tire slip and I'm dead in the water for a few seconds if there was car behind me they would have for sure rear ended me.
Traction control gen 3 question
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I maybe wrong but - Be in 4H whenever there is a chance of slipping. As a matter of fact some drivers recommend you never use 2H. What you describe might not happen if you used the 4H mode, I think. You can also switch the ASC ( stability control ) off for low speeds. This helps when doing tough sections where all wheels stand a chance of slipping. My 0.2.
This system is there for a reason, think doing higher speeds on slipping roads and this system will save your life - https://youtu.be/1NEm8OJhs4A
Michael Brown
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ASC will always cut throttle to maintain vehicle stability when it detects wheel slip and prevent a rollover situation (more throttle=more speed=more energy to flip the car). Traction control uses the brakes to manage individual wheel slip and it activates after the ASC. The systems will act exactly as OP describes in 2WD. 4H (AWD in Monteros) will help prevent this situation.
There is an article somewhere about this where a woman's Montero/Pajero slipped in the rain in an intersection in 2H as she tried to accelerate quickly into an intersection. ASC saw slipping and cut throttle to prevent a slide or spinning, but it left her in the intersection without power in front of traffic. The car continued once wheel slip stopped, and no wreck occurred. Upon investigation of the Mistubishi engineers, they determined that everything worked as designed, but she should have been using 4H to prevent slip in the first place. They recommended that the vehicle be driven in 4H at all times to prevent such issues.
There is an article somewhere about this where a woman's Montero/Pajero slipped in the rain in an intersection in 2H as she tried to accelerate quickly into an intersection. ASC saw slipping and cut throttle to prevent a slide or spinning, but it left her in the intersection without power in front of traffic. The car continued once wheel slip stopped, and no wreck occurred. Upon investigation of the Mistubishi engineers, they determined that everything worked as designed, but she should have been using 4H to prevent slip in the first place. They recommended that the vehicle be driven in 4H at all times to prevent such issues.
coffeegoat
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It makes a bit of sense when you consider how you would drive in that situation, unless I am intentionally trying to power through a slippery situation like mud or snow the first thing I do if I lose traction is to take my foot off the gas, particularly in a two wheel drive vehicle. There are absolutely situations where you want to keep putting power down, but hydroplanning is a good example where just releasing the throttle is the best way to get everything back in line.
However, if my car did that without my knowledge I would find it quite disturbing....
Generally I drive in 4H whenever there is a possibility of slipping, but here in Denver we don't really do rain, it's either dry pavement or lots of snow so I haven't really had to test those in between conditions.
However, if my car did that without my knowledge I would find it quite disturbing....
Generally I drive in 4H whenever there is a possibility of slipping, but here in Denver we don't really do rain, it's either dry pavement or lots of snow so I haven't really had to test those in between conditions.
Good article on when to disable ASC (Sand Dunes example )
Switch off ASC when stationary and keep on eye on the dash in case it re-engages
http://www.dubaioffroaders.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=434
"Switch off ASC when stationary and keep on eye on the dash in case it re-engages
- You can drive in D, but it is advisable to drive in ‘manual’ mode to identify optimal shifting points"
Switch off ASC when stationary and keep on eye on the dash in case it re-engages
http://www.dubaioffroaders.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=434
"Switch off ASC when stationary and keep on eye on the dash in case it re-engages
- You can drive in D, but it is advisable to drive in ‘manual’ mode to identify optimal shifting points"
Thanks for all the replies. So today I decided to see if I could recreate the situation and kinda of did. This time when to tire slipped the engine backed of but I kept forward momentum and it was way better. It's still I little unnerving to think if it's wet out and I try and pull out at an intersection that my tires may slip and I'm suddenly sitting in traffic.
I really prefer the old Monty Sport I had over the G3 when it comes to snow traction. The G3 stutters and spurts until you remember that little off switch. Even then, with the TC off, it's not the same.
The Sport was 2hi with a stiff LSD, and 4hi was locked only. If you need 4wd, might as well be locked. And no TC to mess up the feel for the conditions.
Makes me wish I had an 02, AKA Gen3, not the Gen 3.5, if you know what I mean.
The Sport was 2hi with a stiff LSD, and 4hi was locked only. If you need 4wd, might as well be locked. And no TC to mess up the feel for the conditions.
Makes me wish I had an 02, AKA Gen3, not the Gen 3.5, if you know what I mean.
Inyo_man
Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.
I understand where you're coming from...
Meh I think the gen3 system isn't really as intrusive as others. Tires make the biggest difference. I've driven other vehicles (Land Rover) that have the same traction control algorithms and never had issues either. Deep snow ice etc...
The biggest thing is to immediately let off the gas and then punch it. That way the ASC kicks off and you just have traction control if you get wheel spin. We keep both ours in 4h most of the time even normal driving. Over the years I've had most all full time 4wd vehicles and the safety and feel of surety is so much more over rwd only.
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The biggest thing is to immediately let off the gas and then punch it. That way the ASC kicks off and you just have traction control if you get wheel spin. We keep both ours in 4h most of the time even normal driving. Over the years I've had most all full time 4wd vehicles and the safety and feel of surety is so much more over rwd only.
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