Inexpensive vs. Expensive Winch

[67cj5]

Dude it's one test, that could be edited or conducted any way the reviewer wants. It's isn't proof of anything, nor Fact, nor Truth. It's a data point, nothing more.
Try to go find other vids of Warns burning up.*
/and I'm no fanboy of Warn

*try to find more than one vid of Badlands failing, for that matter. All I can find is the millenial tards with the red jeep jackassing around. The other vids I find show them working just fine.
It's the TOTALITY of reviews and anecdotes that matter. Warn has a long history and wide user base. They earned their rep. (they just cost a lot more than I want to pay)

Well like I said All brands have failures but even cheap brands can be good solid units, The Warn Evo is made in China but that does not make it any lesser Winch than the US made models, As Andy ( WARN ) pointed out they undergo the same QC rigorous testing,

 

[Nonimouse]

Warrior Winches are as good as the most expensive brands, They fitted them to British Army Vehicles so that says something as to their quality, I did the warn thing before they started making them in China and they weren't that impressive even back then, Out of all the Brands Warrior and Superwinch get my vote.

Not quite.

Red Winches (the worlds best winches) made a Hydraulic winch range, one of which, The Warrior, was fitted to Coyote and Jackal as standard kit. It's an awesome winch.

Warrior Winches is a trade name of a UK winch Retailer, who sold amongst other The TDS winch , also known as the Goldfish, when sold by David Bowyer. Warrior do some excellent, low budget winches, mostly out of Taiwan or the big Chinese manufacturers

 

[Nonimouse]

I’m not trying to butt heads here but warn is by far one of the if not the most popular winch’s in existence.

If there were problem after problem after problem That would quickly get out to the community

I live in Colorado where winching is very common and I have never seen a Warn fail or not work but have various other brands.
They are made in the USA and have great support and will still be in business for years if there is a problem.

If it bleeds it reads and I don’t see much negative news about Warn but do others

Just my .02

When I worked for Toyota Gibraltar Stock holdings, the worlds biggest supplier of aid vehicles, we reckoned 58 percent of the Warn winches we used would fail first time - that's first time they were powered up. Warn rekoned this was fine as 50% of owners never used the winch they bought.
We tried to avoid fitting Warn, but had to fit what the client wanted. Most NGO's simply want them as a one use, get me out of the ******** card. So that's okay. Use, strip,scrap.
Obviously we didn't fit the 8274 - a great winch, or the M Series - not bad if serviced well. The best winch we fitted - ie the one that withstood lots and lots of abuse, was the X9; hence the reason I got into repairing/servicing X9's...

 

[67cj5]

Not quite.

Red Winches (the worlds best winches) made a Hydraulic winch range, one of which, The Warrior, was fitted to Coyote and Jackal as standard kit. It's an awesome winch.

Warrior Winches is a trade name of a UK winch Retailer, who sold amongst other The TDS winch , also known as the Goldfish, when sold by David Bowyer. Warrior do some excellent, low budget winches, mostly out of Taiwan or the big Chinese manufacturers

Yes that's right, Warrior Winches were previously Branded "Champion" back around 2012 but for some reason had to change there name, I like how they have an OTT build quality and are very robust. and the fact they were fitted to certain Military vehicles was why I bought them, But I only bought the models the Military used.

 

[jadmt]

Sorry but that is incorrect this is not about me having an opinion It is about the Truth and I have the full review if you want it but because it is FACT, But the Truth is the Warn winch that started to Burn up was the Warn Magnum 10, which is Made in the USA,

The point is there are good and bad in all brands not just Warn and it also points out that even a $500 winch can be just as good as it's more expensive Cousins.

But just so you know that it is fact and not my own opinion heres the Video.

The Warn magnum winch sold in australia is a vr series my vr 10000s came with a few different warn decals including a magnum 10 decal.

 

[nitro_rat]

The Warn magnum winch sold in australia is a vr series my vr 10000s came with a few different warn decals including a magnum 10 decal.

The VR/Magnum is final assembled in the USA by Warn with offshore (Chinese) parts. It's not the same thing as a "real" Warn although you probably have a better chance of getting a "good" one than with the ones assembled by Asian children...

 

[LandCruiserPhil]

I bought my currently installed Warn 23 years ago and it has been there ever time in need.

 

[jadmt]

The VR/Magnum is final assembled in the USA by Warn with offshore (Chinese) parts. It's not the same thing as a "real" Warn although you probably have a better chance of getting a "good" one than with the ones assembled by Asian children...

I will argue that. i have one of the first vr10000 winches and it says made in China on it. Warn initially said they were going to be assembled in the USA but i don't believe that ever happened.

 

[nitro_rat]

Just repeating what I was told by a Warn rep when the VR's came out. I've had good luck with the Harbor Freight 12000 winches, the brake isn't great though and it will eventually quit. Throw away the circuit breaker it comes with or the motor will burn prematurely...

 

[rayra]

Just repeating what I was told by a Warn rep when the VR's came out. I've had good luck with the Harbor Freight 12000 winches, the brake isn't great though and it will eventually quit. Throw away the circuit breaker it comes with or the motor will burn prematurely...

really? I'd thought they were only 150A total. They have a very low duty cycle number, could it have been overheating / overuse, rather than the supplied Amps?
I've been wiring and configuring with the intent of slinging as much as 200A at their 12,000 and was iniitally muddled by the 150A breaker assembly supplied. But then figured 'ok, that holds it well below my wiring, so o.k.'. And if 150A is too much, well, I've really overbuilt everything else. Pretty much 1/0 cable throughout, dual battery, 200A combiner solenoid, high output 200A+ ALT and the SB175 connectors. Was even planning to swap the factory winch connection cables to 1/0 (iirc they are 2AWG?)
(shrug) I'm still planning to go with the Badlands 12k. At $300 sale price I can't pass it up. the $4-500 premium for something else will go to some other need. Until we're all back to work I'm probably not buying ANY winch. Still have to procure the last cabling to my rear bumper and front grill plug locations, anyway.

 

[nitro_rat]

really? I'd thought they were only 150A total. They have a very low duty cycle number, could it have been overheating / overuse, rather than the supplied Amps?
I've been wiring and configuring with the intent of slinging as much as 200A at their 12,000 and was iniitally muddled by the 150A breaker assembly supplied. But then figured 'ok, that holds it well below my wiring, so o.k.'. And if 150A is too much, well, I've really overbuilt everything else. Pretty much 1/0 cable throughout, dual battery, 200A combiner solenoid, high output 200A+ ALT and the SB175 connectors. Was even planning to swap the factory winch connection cables to 1/0 (iirc they are 2AWG?)
(shrug) I'm still planning to go with the Badlands 12k. At $300 sale price I can't pass it up. the $4-500 premium for something else will go to some other need. Until we're all back to work I'm probably not buying ANY winch. Still have to procure the last cabling to my rear bumper and front grill plug locations, anyway.

I just got a coupon for $289...

 

[verdesard0g]

I will not buy anythng marketed by Warn any more. I recently Warn called customer service to find the Working Load Limit and safety factor of their snatch blocks. What I was told is that they do not do that! All he could tell me is what snatch block was advised for what Warn winch.
Decades ago I had an 8000# Warn winch that I powered out less than one cable length, the brake and complete drive system failed. Warn said it was normal and I could BUY an upgraded brake and drive system to repair it.
I now have a Milemarker hydraulic winch on my truck that has been flawless for over 15 years and unlike all electric winches has a 100% duty cycle.

 

[rayra]

I just got a coupon for $289...

noice. Fresh Last month's catalog has $299. [ETA just got the fresh catalog today, yep, $289] They're on sale like this about every 3mos. I'll probably get it next cycle / June.
I intend to pull it apart and thoroughly re-grease and upgrade / change the factory connection wiring, before i even install it. Already got the hitch carrier, dyneema rope, hawse plate and all the winching accessories laying around waiting. And think I just found a decent online vendor for the 1/0 welding cable to complete my front and rear power plug wiring extensions.

 

[Nonimouse]

Yes that's right, Warrior Winches were previously Branded "Champion" back around 2012 but for some reason had to change there name, I like how they have an OTT build quality and are very robust. and the fact they were fitted to certain Military vehicles was why I bought them, But I only bought the models the Military used.

As I said before, the Champion re-brand name Warrior was never used on any British military vehicle, ever. It is simply not squaddie proof; whereas the Red Winches one is...

Here is a link https://www.red-winches.com/products/warrior/3/

They will still make to order

Previous this the UK Military fitted Mile-Marker hydraulic winches but they broke a lot (generally the casings), Husky, Warn 8274 and Ramsey Patriots... All to light vehicles

 

[billiebob]

Given that this has turned into a Warn brand debate, I'd say Warn is the number one winch out there. Ya either like it or you don't but it is obviously the most popular winch brand in the world.