Tires

TacoTraveler

Adventurer
Well I've done some research into tire weights and price versus tread wear and this is what I have found.

Dunlop Mud Rover
$153
46lbs
17/32"

Firestone A/T
$139
43lbs
14/32"

BFG A/T
$169
51lbs
16/32"

BFG M/T
$191
51lbs
19/32"

From what I have read the BFG A/T will last the longest, followed by the Firestone A/T, then the Mud Rover, then the BFG M/T.

Which tire would you guys go with?
 

EODTaco

Observer
Don't know if you've made your mind up for sure yet, but just in case you wanted another wrench in the gears...

Maxxis Bighorn
$135 (Ebay, Macstirebin)
54 lbs. (I think..)
19/32"
Available in 6, 8, or 10 ply

I've got a set of 265/75's on my Tacoma and I love them. They ride nice, aren't that loud, balanced easily, and are wearing well so far (~6K miles). I wanted BFGs, too, but went with these to save the ol' pocketbook.

Like CA-RJ said, which ever you decide don't forget about Ebay!
Hope this helps.
 

TacoTraveler

Adventurer
Don't know if you've made your mind up for sure yet, but just in case you wanted another wrench in the gears...

Maxxis Bighorn
$135 (Ebay, Macstirebin)
54 lbs. (I think..)
19/32"
Available in 6, 8, or 10 ply

I've got a set of 265/75's on my Tacoma and I love them. They ride nice, aren't that loud, balanced easily, and are wearing well so far (~6K miles). I wanted BFGs, too, but went with these to save the ol' pocketbook.

Like CA-RJ said, which ever you decide don't forget about Ebay!
Hope this helps.

Those weight 54lbs each and are a little heavier. What was your gas mileage before and after putting them on?
 

EODTaco

Observer
My gas mileage was bouncing between 16-18 before and I lost about 1 mpg after. That's all city driving with my top speed only getting to around 55. Your right, though, these tires are a tad heavy.
 

4Rescue

Expedition Leader
I'll vote BFG AT"s and say IMO you should avoid the Nitto's.

Had the TG's on a previous truck of mine. I got them on a set of 5 wheels that I bought and was stoked to have new tires. Still had the nubbins and all. Well, not so much. They were Ok on the street, but they hydroplaned badly here in Portland. Yeah we have alot of idiots who drive around all winter with studs and yeah we get more rain than the tropics but they HP'd BADLY. While I thought that the moire open tread blocks would ched mud faster... not really, it they caked after about 5 wheel rotations and stayed that way untill I hit a stream crossing. 2 of us on Nitto's same story. 7 other guy's in a mix of Toy P/U's, Jeep XJ's and Cj's 4 of whom were running BFG AT's. The BFG's gripped better when it got rocky adn it seemed that they could saw the wheel and get far better traction than I could meaning that the tread edge and sidewall have more traction as well. They were kind of screwed as well when it came to the mud, but they shed better and you could see a decernable tread pattern well before you could on our Nitto's. Swaped trucks with one of the guy's in a Toyota with BFG At's anfd I felt like it was a far sure-er footed truck. This is just my opinion but that's how it felt to me. Were the BFG's super in the mud... No, were marginaly better than the Nitto's well that's hard to tell, none of us got stuck so... But then I had to get kind of creative adn the other BFG guy's just kept on going.

I ended up selling the rims again for a few dollars more than I paid :D and went with a set of Schwab's TXR's. I really liked these tires and am sad to see them not offered anymore. However in a search for some 33x9.50's I found the Dean SXT and met a few guy's rtunning them. All had good things to say so I may go with these but I've never met anyone who's actualy driven with the BFG AT's for a long period of time complain. It's a gfod tire that's proven. I hate to say it, but alot of people think it's just too spendy and get cheeper tires and then say they're over rated... kind of an odd statement to me when there's SO much testimonial to the contrary.


I also have 2 seperate friends and users of the Nitto mud Grappler's and both of them had multiple tires relaced under waranty for defects and excessive wear. Personaly I hate looking through 4x4 mags and seeing the "team XTREME" crap Nitto puts out adn I haven't liked their tires much so I choose not to buy them. had them on my VW's for a short while and I didn't care for their street tires either. i guess you could say I'm not a fan.

Another really interesting Tire to me is the Maxxis Bighorn. Available in 255... And not quite a full on MT, but very very agressivly treaded.

Since you're in Florida in the mud and sand, you'll want ( and it hurts me to say it ;) ) wider tires to float more instead of sink and spin.

Let us know what you get. Either way, as long as you/'re happy that's really all that matters I guess.

Cheers

Dave

Edit: EODTaco beat me to the Maxxis's eh HAHAHAHAHAHA I feel like I should give these a try too. Nullifier here on teh boards has an Awesome taco that he's got on some 255/85 Bighorns and he's down in Florida as well. As far as I know he's REAL happy with them. hell he's got a fish depthfinder to figure out how deep some of the holes he puts his truck into are. If that's not a good opinbion to seek i don't know who's is. I live in teh NW so franlly our wheeling couldn't be any different except for the wet part that is ;) .
 
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TacoTraveler

Adventurer
I'll vote BFG AT"s and say IMO you should avoid the Nitto's.

Had the TG's on a previous truck of mine. I got them on a set of 5 wheels that I bought and was stoked to have new tires. Still had the nubbins and all. Well, not so much. They were Ok on the street, but they hydroplaned badly here in Portland. Yeah we have alot of idiots who drive around all winter with studs and yeah we get more rain than the tropics but they HP'd BADLY. While I thought that the moire open tread blocks would ched mud faster... not really, it they caked after about 5 wheel rotations and stayed that way untill I hit a stream crossing. 2 of us on Nitto's same story. 7 other guy's in a mix of Toy P/U's, Jeep XJ's and Cj's 4 of whom were running BFG AT's. The BFG's gripped better when it got rocky adn it seemed that they could saw the wheel and get far better traction than I could meaning that the tread edge and sidewall have more traction as well. They were kind of screwed as well when it came to the mud, but they shed better and you could see a decernable tread pattern well before you could on our Nitto's. Swaped trucks with one of the guy's in a Toyota with BFG At's anfd I felt like it was a far sure-er footed truck. This is just my opinion but that's how it felt to me. Were the BFG's super in the mud... No, were marginaly better than the Nitto's well that's hard to tell, none of us got stuck so... But then I had to get kind of creative adn the other BFG guy's just kept on going.

I ended up selling the rims again for a few dollars more than I paid :D and went with a set of Schwab's TXR's. I really liked these tires and am sad to see them not offered anymore. However in a search for some 33x9.50's I found the Dean SXT and met a few guy's rtunning them. All had good things to say so I may go with these but I've never met anyone who's actualy driven with the BFG AT's for a long period of time complain. It's a gfod tire that's proven. I hate to say it, but alot of people think it's just too spendy and get cheeper tires and then say they're over rated... kind of an odd statement to me when there's SO much testimonial to the contrary.


I also have 2 seperate friends and users of the Nitto mud Grappler's and both of them had multiple tires relaced under waranty for defects and excessive wear. Personaly I hate looking through 4x4 mags and seeing the "team XTREME" crap Nitto puts out adn I haven't liked their tires much so I choose not to buy them. had them on my VW's for a short while and I didn't care for their street tires either. i guess you could say I'm not a fan.

Another really interesting Tire to me is the Maxxis Bighorn. Available in 255... And not quite a full on MT, but very very agressivly treaded.

Since you're in Florida in the mud and sand, you'll want ( and it hurts me to say it ;) ) wider tires to float more instead of sink and spin.

Let us know what you get. Either way, as long as you/'re happy that's really all that matters I guess.

Cheers

Dave

Edit: EODTaco beat me to the Maxxis's eh HAHAHAHAHAHA I feel like I should give these a try too. Nullifier here on teh boards has an Awesome taco that he's got on some 255/85 Bighorns and he's down in Florida as well. As far as I know he's REAL happy with them. hell he's got a fish depthfinder to figure out how deep some of the holes he puts his truck into are. If that's not a good opinbion to seek i don't know who's is. I live in teh NW so franlly our wheeling couldn't be any different except for the wet part that is ;) .

This was great!
This has been a great input on the Nitto's and has entirely turned me away from them.

I would go with the 255/85 tire size but those are also 33" tires. My 285/75 tires I have now are also 33" and they just keep rubbing on the wheel wells and I can't stand it.
I've pretty much narrowed it down to either the Dunlop Radial Mud Rover or the BFG A/T. I figure the MPG will be about the same considering the BFG weighs a little more but the Mud Rover is more aggressive.
The Mud Rover is estimated to last about 40-50k miles where as the BFG will last 50-60k. BFG will be $168 a tire and the Mud Rover will be $153 a tire. I can probably find them cheaper elsewhere though.

EDIT:
I'm going to go with the 265/75 tire unless someone can inform me the secret to fit the 255/85 tire when my 285/75 would not.
 

xcmountain80

Expedition Leader
What toyota are you driving that you need 265's? That being said I'm on my 2nd set of Nitto TG's have a set on dads Tahoe set on Brothers Taco set on a work truck. they are awesome and less than the BFG's.

Aaron
 

4Rescue

Expedition Leader
What toyota are you driving that you need 265's? That being said I'm on my 2nd set of Nitto TG's have a set on dads Tahoe set on Brothers Taco set on a work truck. they are awesome and less than the BFG's.

Aaron
yeah see, to be fair I hear this alot as well. What I posted has been MY experience with Nitto's and mine alone. I honestly think that in the rocks and espescialy slickrock/sandstone they might be a decent to pretty good tire.

cheers

Dave
 

Redline

Likes to Drive and Ride
265/75R16 is a great tire size with all the choices in the world..

255/85 ‘MAY’ fit where a 285/75 does not because they are narrower.

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EDIT:
I'm going to go with the 265/75 tire unless someone can inform me the secret to fit the 255/85 tire when my 285/75 would not.
 

Cackalak Han

Explorer
I'll also add that the Nitto's simply sucked in the snow. Not deep snow, but packed snow on the road. Very squirmy and unstable, I felt. REVO's were much better and so are my current BFG's.

If you're thinking 265/75's, don't look past 235/85's. Cheaper and a hair taller.

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xcmountain80

Expedition Leader
Snow huh? I n my travels I found the tires were just the opposite of what you claimed but that could because of the large size difference. 295.75.16's are substantially bigger than their 265 counterpart.

Aaron
 

Cackalak Han

Explorer
Snow huh? I n my travels I found the tires were just the opposite of what you claimed but that could because of the large size difference. 295.75.16's are substantially bigger than their 265 counterpart.

Aaron

Not sure if you were replying to my post, but I have heard others say that they had no troubles in snow, but for me, I did and we do get more than 500” of snow every year, so the tires do get put to the test. Not sure if the larger size plays a role in this, because it’s really the tire compound and tread pattern that will have a bigger effect in snow (packed).
 

xcmountain80

Expedition Leader
Well your 500" certainly trumps any I've covered, and yes larger tread pattern more weight distribution. The 265 is 31.54 X 10.75 and the 295 is 33.27 X 11.73 while not a huge difference it does add up, not to mention these tires won't even fit on a stock taco (not that has any bearing on the weight distribution). But damn 500" I'd take your advice on most things snow but I guess everyone has their own opinions. But like I said when it cam to snow I'd trust what you had to say. Not to mention these aren't rock rigs sporting 36's swampers going for snow runs either.

Aaron
 
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CYi5

Explorer
I'm on 285/75 Nitto TG's right now - great choice, 265/75 next.
32x11.5 Mud Rovers in the past - loud but effective.
255/85/16 Maxxis Bighorns in the past - Great mud tire, if I need MT's again i'll get the bighorns, easy choice.
 

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