100 Series L-Shock Mod

[2000UZJ]

what all is involved? is it just the N-74L shocks from an 80 and some bushing swapped from the 100?

id ask on mud, but dont want WWIII to emerge.

either this mod or the snork. id love more travel. and my shock gotta go

 

[spressomon]

The L shock is longer so you will have to limit your up travel with frame mounted bump stops. In the end you end up with .6" more total travel in the form of droop. May or may not be worth it to you depending upon where you travel and what type of terrain.

FYI: I am running 10" travel Fox shocks in the rear of my 100 which are plenty fine for all the terrain I travel. Yes I could have gone with 11" or even 12" long travel version but you just have to limit the up travel to get the additional droop.

I preferred a more balanced approach. But again that's for me and my intended design center for my rig.

 

[2000UZJ]

Your saying the L shocks will give me a half inch more travel?

In that case. I'll go with the intended ome shocks for teh 100

 

[cruiseroutfit]

N74L + OMEB40

And spressomon nailed the nitty gritty of it.

 

[ShottsCruisers]

The conclusions mentioned above are 100% dead wrong. Since the rediculous wars broke out on MUD about this I have taken actual measurements and know the exact reality of the variance in travel between the regular and L-shock travel numbers. I also have the exact numbers for a vehicle with 285 and 295 tires. You all can believe what you like and enjoy your setups.

 

[whitecon]

The conclusions mentioned above are 100% dead wrong. Since the rediculous wars broke out on MUD about this I have taken actual measurements and know the exact reality of the variance in travel between the regular and L-shock travel numbers. I also have the exact numbers for a vehicle with 285 and 295 tires. You all can believe what you like and enjoy your setups.

so what are the numbers??????

 

[ShottsCruisers]

so what are the numbers??????

I plan on posting the details on my website when I get a chance. I'm waiting because I actually am planning yet another experiment with my setup to even further increase overall travel. I plan to gain another 1-inch or so and hope it works out on my truck.

I've also decided to not debate this in online forums any longer. One reason...read the negative comment in the original post on this thread. The other reason is that there are too many people who do not believe the data and therefore discredit the results despite not having any experience whatsoever with the mod. This always puzzles me as people who have wheeled their non-L 100's with me confirm the difference between my setup and theirs is very credible. One trail trip and they instantly want my setup. Two out of three have swapped the shocks after these trips out with me. Seeing is believing.

So I'm sorry, but that's all I'll say here. Believe who you want about the merits...though I hope I see you on the trail. And check out my website every now and then for updates.

 

[2000UZJ]

I blew a shock the other day wheeling I guess the OME866 springs pushed the factory shocks down to hard when I came off the ledge.


a few questions for Mr. John----


1) What bushings/bolts do I need to swap over to my truck to make it work?
2) I'm running 33.4" (295/75) BFG AT's , how low will I need to put the bump stops?
3) How much added rear flex will I get with the N74L over stock shocks?
4) What do I use upfront? the normal 100 OME shocks?
5) Was is the same cost or a little more than standard OME shocks for the 100's?


Thanks, and if anybody knows the answers feel free to chime in! Blown shock in the rear don't feel to good.

 

[ShottsCruisers]

OK Nick. Here's some added info from recent experimenting. Answer inside your email too.

a few questions for Mr. John----


1) What bushings/bolts do I need to swap over to my truck to make it work?

"From Mr. Slee:
The bottom bushing ID is 19mm but on the N101 the width is 45mm and the N74L is 40mm. So you would need to use the N101 bottom bushing.

The top pin is 17mm on the N101 and 14mm on the N74L. The index washer lip is 26mm on the N101 and 22mm on the N74L.

So on the top you need to use the N101's washers and hardware, but you need to use the poly bushings from the N74L."

2) I'm running 33.4" (295/75) BFG AT's , how low will I need to put the bump stops?

To protect the shocks during compression, I confirmed the same number another member did previously...1/2" bump stop extension is all that was needed. I decided initially to run 2" bumpstops from the day I added 35-inch tires. This was only for rubbing purposes. I did not change the stops after adding the L's. We did recently drop to a 1/2", though I've not been on the trail to test yet. I'm concerned that the rubbing will bug me.

3) How much added rear flex will I get with the N74L over stock shocks?

For YOUR setup:
*You are in a better spot! Having 33's you don't need to worry about rubbing. You 1/2" bump stop it you'll gain 2.1" travel (or a touch over 3-inches wheel travel). It's the wheel travel that counts. Pictures don't lie. The difference is mainly in the form oif droop which is what we need on our lifted rigs.

Here's another thought on this......think about all the slams from the non-IFS crowd about the lack of FRONT wheel travel on the 100. Compared to the 80 the 100 has 3" less front travel. Imagine gaining that travel up front on a 100. It'd be a BIG difference, right? Everyone would praise the gains. Well, you can add it to the back of a 100 and it makes a big difference as well. Wheels are on the ground FAR more often. Pics don't lie!

4) What do I use upfront? the normal 100 OME shocks?

No change.

5) Was is the same cost or a little more than standard OME shocks for the 100's?

They're the same or nearly the same. I didn't look them up.


Thanks, and if anybody knows the answers feel free to chime in! Blown shock in the rear don't feel to good.

NOTE: You need a true 3" lift/spring to run these longer shocks. Examples:

863 as is
865 with 20mm trim packs
866 with 20mm trim packs

So you will need to lift your rear more. Then you can tweak the front bars to match.

For the third time....pics don't lie. The improvement (HOWEVER IT GETS THERE) is notable.