Tundra Vs. Tacoma

jim65wagon

Well-known member
Alright already:sombrero:! Stop worrying about the look and the size. Buy the DC Tundra put enough lift on it to get a decent sized tire under it, armor it up, throw the fam in it and get exploring. You may not think it looks like an expedition rig, but if you get out in it it will be an expedition rig.
 

mcm4090

Explorer
One thing I did the last time I went truck buying was I brought my kids with me.
I wanted to see how conferable they would be in the back. The second time we went back for a test drive, I sat in the back while my wife got to test drive the truck. I knew what ever I got I would have for the next 7 or 8 years so I wanted to make sure their was plenty of leg room for my kids as they got older.
 

rambrush

Adventurer
Here is the link for his build
http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/off-roading/85576-truck-under-destruction/

Send a PM to DevinSixtySeven or find him on the TundraSolutions forum. I think the only things Toyota left on his Tundra are the frame, engine and dashboard. If you want to see how far you can build one, it is a good one to look at (and a great guy too).

I've long thought that the previous generation access cab Taco is the best one or two person travel platform easily available in the US. However, I don't think any Tacoma is really suitable for a family. I have pretty much decided that my next vehicle will be a previous generation Tundra for many of the reasons you mention. I too am worried about the size as I have never driven anything that large off pavement in any real way.

One major negative for me on the Taco and Tundra is the visibility is awful, which is why many of the owners have camera systems to see where the front end is. A Subaru Outback is worthless off pavement because it doesn't have low range. Perhaps the autos are ok, but the manual transmission is lacking at best.
 
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Deleted member 9101

Guest
The Tundra sounds 100X better with duals leaving a stop light in a hurry..and that's what really counts ;-)
 
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Deleted member 9101

Guest
The factory Borla exhaust on mine is a good fit also.

Oh tell me, the factory duals are as good of quality if not better than aftermarket ones and it sounds perfect....not loud in the cab..but lets people in the car behind you know its not a V-6 pulling away.
 

Casper

Adventurer
I will offer up my $.02

I have a 2000 Tundra AC. Although I did not get it as an expedition vehicle. I got it because I was looking for a DD that wouldn't cost much. at $5000 this fit the bill at the time. I honestly figured I would have this truck for a year maybe two and then buy a real fullsize (I will explain that coment in a sec) Here where my initial thoughts about this truck, most of which are negitive.

1. Considered pretty much a ful size truck, with all of the downsides of a full size and none of the upsides.
2. Big and clunky to drive and park
3. Gas milages will suck
4. Hard to see out of it to see where the front and rear bumpers are.
5. Can't tow like a big truck. 7000lb limit. I mean really, if you have to put up with the downsides, you should at least be able to pull some decent wieght.
6. Ugly, especially since I have the "sandy" color that I think 99% of the Tundras in this area are.
7. No real power since it's not a diesal.


Ok, before everyone starts getting upset about my thoughts on this truck, remember these were "impressions" made without any real knowledge to back them up.

I have now had the truck for just over 2 years. First off, it is nothing like a fullsize. I have driven most fullsize truck out there. The Tundra is easy to drive, easy to park and nowhere near as big and clunky as a fullsize rig. Yet it has room enough to be very comfortable. The power of the engine is well matched to the truck. It may only pull 7000lbs, but it does it without a problem. I resently towing my parents 24ft travel trailer wieghing in at just over 6500lbs. Even on the hills it did great. Real world gas milage is not that bad either. I get 17ish in town, and when going to my folks place if I drive nice I can get it up to almost 24. Not bad for a V8. I can now say I really like this truck, and will be keeping it for quite some time. My impression has flipped. The Tundra is not a "fullsize" truck with none of the benafits, it's more like a small truck with none of the downsides of a small truck. I would have no problem taking this on trails as an expo rig (with a few mods of course), and in fact I am highly considering doing just that. Mild lift and tires, plus a few other things and make it able to do the lighter stuff when I don't need the X (my true expo/rock rig) The stile has grown on me as well.

So, I would say for the requirements you are looking for, the first Gen Tundra is a perfect choice for you and the family. It will serve you well for a long time. Heck, I have 245k on mine, and with the regular scheduled maintenance I see no problems with it going much, much more.

So good luck with your choice. I hope my long winded post help you in your desition.

Cheers,
Josh
&
Porthos
:smiley_drive:
 
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JCMatthews

Tour Guide
You Sound like my wife!

Alright already:sombrero:! Stop worrying about the look and the size. Buy the DC Tundra put enough lift on it to get a decent sized tire under it, armor it up, throw the fam in it and get exploring. You may not think it looks like an expedition rig, but if you get out in it it will be an expedition rig.
I know I know. I just did an overnighter with my boy scouts. I took the XJ and the M416. What a beater that Jeep has become. I need to do as I am told and get the Tundra. I passed a Tundra on the way out to the San Rafael Swell and it sure did not look big width wise. Any way I am just blithering and appreciate all who are listening.
 
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CJCA

Adventurer
What I would like to do is start doing more overland type trips with my family of five.

Five people, big or little, get the Tundra. You'll and they will enjoy the room.

This is from a person who prefers the Tacoma, but I don't travel with more than one passenger.
 

motochain

Wanderer
Motochain, any pics of your rig?

I haven't taken any good ones lately.

This is back before the RTT upgrade.
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Box Rocket

Well-known member
Lots of votes for the Tundra. The extra power of the V8 is hard to argue, and so is the interior room, but for me I'd still take the DC Tacoma. If all you're going to tow with it is your M416, you'll be fine, but adding a supercharger would make it very nice.

My vote for the Tacoma is coming from spending time in similar places around Utah. If you're keeping your XJ, then some of this won't matter, but if you're going to retire the Jeep and use it's replacement where you're used to wheeling, then the Tacoma is just going to work better. Even though Moab is wide open on many trails, the approach/breakover/departure angles of the Tundra are going to be a pain. I know you are familiar with Moab so you'll know what I mean when I say you'll be dragging the back end of a Tundra ALL OVER THE PLACE. And there are plenty of steps/ledges that unless you have a large lift, the back end will drag so badly that you might not even get up unless you winch. The long wheelbase of the Tundra will be problematic on Moab trails as well with a poor breakover angle. Excellent skid plates will be a must since you'll be using them for sure.

You will still drag the back end of the Tacoma on Moab trails, but much less. Also, as a lighter truck it will be much more agile and less prone to breaking. The aftermarket for the Taco is MUCH larger.

It sounds like you explore the San Rafael Swell alot too. My guess is that the Tundra will handle most of those trails just fine as there aren't that many that are really difficult and tight. But I can still think of places in the swell that if I were driving a Tundra, I'd be wishing for something a little smaller. True, you'll be sacrificing interior room and that may be a bigger concern with your family. You'll have to weigh what is more important to you. I just know for me, that a fullsize truck, Tundra or otherwise is bigger than I want to drive on Utah trails. Heck, my 80 series Land Cruiser feels very big on some trails. You might consider an 80 series Cruiser as an option. You'll get similar interior seating room to a DC Tundra but room for gear inside the truck rather than in the bed, shorter wheelbase than the Tundra for better breakover angle. The LC also has a very strong aftermarket, you can get them with dual factory lockers, much less body behind the rear wheels compared to the Tundra.

So....after all of that, my vote is still for the Tacoma if you're after a truck. If you don't need the truck bed, I'd seriously look at the Land Cruiser. Good room, excellent comfort, very capable, tons of aftermarket support.
 

thecriscokid

Explorer
Lots of votes for the Tundra. The extra power of the V8 is hard to argue, and so is the interior room, but for me I'd still take the DC Tacoma. If all you're going to tow with it is your M416, you'll be fine, but adding a supercharger would make it very nice.

My vote for the Tacoma is coming from spending time in similar places around Utah. If you're keeping your XJ, then some of this won't matter, but if you're going to retire the Jeep and use it's replacement where you're used to wheeling, then the Tacoma is just going to work better. Even though Moab is wide open on many trails, the approach/breakover/departure angles of the Tundra are going to be a pain. I know you are familiar with Moab so you'll know what I mean when I say you'll be dragging the back end of a Tundra ALL OVER THE PLACE. And there are plenty of steps/ledges that unless you have a large lift, the back end will drag so badly that you might not even get up unless you winch. The long wheelbase of the Tundra will be problematic on Moab trails as well with a poor breakover angle. Excellent skid plates will be a must since you'll be using them for sure.

You will still drag the back end of the Tacoma on Moab trails, but much less. Also, as a lighter truck it will be much more agile and less prone to breaking. The aftermarket for the Taco is MUCH larger.

It sounds like you explore the San Rafael Swell alot too. My guess is that the Tundra will handle most of those trails just fine as there aren't that many that are really difficult and tight. But I can still think of places in the swell that if I were driving a Tundra, I'd be wishing for something a little smaller. True, you'll be sacrificing interior room and that may be a bigger concern with your family. You'll have to weigh what is more important to you. I just know for me, that a fullsize truck, Tundra or otherwise is bigger than I want to drive on Utah trails. Heck, my 80 series Land Cruiser feels very big on some trails. You might consider an 80 series Cruiser as an option. You'll get similar interior seating room to a DC Tundra but room for gear inside the truck rather than in the bed, shorter wheelbase than the Tundra for better breakover angle. The LC also has a very strong aftermarket, you can get them with dual factory lockers, much less body behind the rear wheels compared to the Tundra.

So....after all of that, my vote is still for the Tacoma if you're after a truck. If you don't need the truck bed, I'd seriously look at the Land Cruiser. Good room, excellent comfort, very capable, tons of aftermarket support.

Funny, I was getting out of my tundra today and walked by a 4dr Tacoma with that tiny bed. That Tacoma for me seems like the bed would be useless. I mean, if you are going to have a truck you might as well have a bed bigger that 4ft. The battle that I would be waying if I were you, having your 4 wheeling backround would be Landcruiser for family wheeling or Tundra for less wheeling more cargo. I personally have a '00 Tundra, do not have a wheeling backround and very much enjoy the places that my bigish truck can go. The more I drive it the more I like it.
Don't know if that helps, but I vote Tundra, whether you keep the jeep or not. Besides, I'm not too sure how much fun being a passenger (or 3 wide in the back) would be on something like Amasa Back in Moab. My guess is that family wheeling would get toned back a bit anyhow.
 

rambrush

Adventurer
A good post
Even though I have the DC Tundra it is large. When the funds become available I will have either a 40lc or a 4runner in the stable for those types of trails. The 40 won't haul much of anything and the 4 runner has more options and is about the same dimensions as the taco

Lots of votes for the Tundra. The extra power of the V8 is hard to argue, and so is the interior room, but for me I'd still take the DC Tacoma. If all you're going to tow with it is your M416, you'll be fine, but adding a supercharger would make it very nice.

My vote for the Tacoma is coming from spending time in similar places around Utah. If you're keeping your XJ, then some of this won't matter, but if you're going to retire the Jeep and use it's replacement where you're used to wheeling, then the Tacoma is just going to work better. Even though Moab is wide open on many trails, the approach/breakover/departure angles of the Tundra are going to be a pain. I know you are familiar with Moab so you'll know what I mean when I say you'll be dragging the back end of a Tundra ALL OVER THE PLACE. And there are plenty of steps/ledges that unless you have a large lift, the back end will drag so badly that you might not even get up unless you winch. The long wheelbase of the Tundra will be problematic on Moab trails as well with a poor breakover angle. Excellent skid plates will be a must since you'll be using them for sure.

You will still drag the back end of the Tacoma on Moab trails, but much less. Also, as a lighter truck it will be much more agile and less prone to breaking. The aftermarket for the Taco is MUCH larger.

It sounds like you explore the San Rafael Swell alot too. My guess is that the Tundra will handle most of those trails just fine as there aren't that many that are really difficult and tight. But I can still think of places in the swell that if I were driving a Tundra, I'd be wishing for something a little smaller. True, you'll be sacrificing interior room and that may be a bigger concern with your family. You'll have to weigh what is more important to you. I just know for me, that a fullsize truck, Tundra or otherwise is bigger than I want to drive on Utah trails. Heck, my 80 series Land Cruiser feels very big on some trails. You might consider an 80 series Cruiser as an option. You'll get similar interior seating room to a DC Tundra but room for gear inside the truck rather than in the bed, shorter wheelbase than the Tundra for better breakover angle. The LC also has a very strong aftermarket, you can get them with dual factory lockers, much less body behind the rear wheels compared to the Tundra.

So....after all of that, my vote is still for the Tacoma if you're after a truck. If you don't need the truck bed, I'd seriously look at the Land Cruiser. Good room, excellent comfort, very capable, tons of aftermarket support.
 

Cackalak Han

Explorer
Funny, I was getting out of my tundra today and walked by a 4dr Tacoma with that tiny bed. That Tacoma for me seems like the bed would be useless. I mean, if you are going to have a truck you might as well have a bed bigger that 4ft. The battle that I would be waying if I were you, having your 4 wheeling backround would be Landcruiser for family wheeling or Tundra for less wheeling more cargo. I personally have a '00 Tundra, do not have a wheeling backround and very much enjoy the places that my bigish truck can go. The more I drive it the more I like it.
Don't know if that helps, but I vote Tundra, whether you keep the jeep or not. Besides, I'm not too sure how much fun being a passenger (or 3 wide in the back) would be on something like Amasa Back in Moab. My guess is that family wheeling would get toned back a bit anyhow.

The 5' bed is a lot more versitile than you think. There were occasions when I wish I had a 6' bed, but overall, it worked great. I've carried a motorcycle, king size bed, mulch/dirt, all sorts of lumber, drywall, etc. Even when I do get a Tundra, I'm going with a crewmax that also has a 5' bed.
 

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