Looking for some advice on choosing a sub $130k camper

morrisster

Adventurer
shagracha was built for $171k in materials/truck and probably $500,000 of labor... (if you read the thread it was 3 guys 14 hour days 7 day weeks for 4 months solid)
you're a craftsman, figure out what you need and build it. on a budget as large as yours you should be able to build quite a rig. IIRC there was a callen camper on a fuso fg that sold for under 20k a few months ago on here. something like that might work well for you. 14k+ GVW , 4x4, and the ability to tow. and on a 20 foot chassis, you get ~15-16ft of usable living space because of the cab forward design.
(link to said camper)
here's someone who lists their entire process for choosing the rig they did - a tiger http://www.best-in-snow.net/dog-tru
a current build on here, dodge 5500 with flatbed and flatbed camper http://www.expeditionportal.com/for...Expedition-Camper-The-build-has-started/page5
a custom build fuso that sold for 80k http://www.expeditionportal.com/for...bishi-Fuso-FG-2004-Expedition-Camper-for-sale
found this on kijiji in alberta 98.5k for a fuso build - cant be registered in the USA though http://fortmcmurray.kijiji.ca/c-car...-FG-4X4-Expedition-Vehicle-W0QQAdIdZ325888958
hackney's solution was to put a bigfoot camper on a fuso chassis http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/4wd-overland-tech/mitsubishi-canter-fg-140-4x4-24502 to quote him from his build site "The basic concept of the chassis, camper, pivot frame and storage boxes could be duplicated for ~$100,000 USD." though his total budget was 275k - including motorcycles, all other systems etc that he put into the truck (solar, etc)

My wife and I have been full-timing in a pop-up truck camper for 3 months now, covered 10,000 miles in that time and have 7-8 months to go still. it is working for us (there are definitely some 'kinks' that I would like worked out but like others have said in this thread so far in response, there is ALWAYS compromise! and you have to live with it. whatever it is. for us it is the pop-up design and the lack of insulation in the soft wall that is annoying (30 degree nights in canada/maine got to be a pain really quickly even with our catalytic heater running)).
I guess what i'm getting at is, depending on your definition of what you need for living full time in a "camper" or "rv" or whatever is the first step to figuring out what vehicle will "work' for you. ultimately though it will take getting out there and just doing it to realize that you really have too much or too little once you're on the road so to speak. after 2 months on the road my wife and I stopped by our storage unit and left more stuff behind (we started off packing then halving and halving again even)
good luck with whatever you choose and have fun on the adventure
 
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elefex

New member
Thank you all for the time and help thus far and those of you who will reply thereafter. We really appreciate your help and believe me, it has saved us much research and that is something that we still have a lot of to do.

We are leaning very heavily towards a setup with the Provan Tiger and a small off-road capable utility trailer (which I have yet to come across). We have been thinking of a TC for a long time and have decided that it would be very nice to have a walk-through like the one that the Tiger offers. We will be expecting weather down to about -30 during the winter in Canada and Alaska.

We will not be getting a traditional Tiger though, we plan to work closely with the manufacturer so that we receive a unit that is more tailored for our application. For example, we would need adequate insulation and a wood stove w/ a heat exchanger (made by myself) installed in the camper. There will also be no use in having things like cooktop (we can cook on the wood stove), refrigerator, or A/C.

shagracha was built for $171k in materials/truck and probably $500,000 of labor... (if you read the thread it was 3 guys 14 hour days 7 day weeks for 4 months solid)
you're a craftsman, figure out what you need and build it. on a budget as large as yours you should be able to build quite a rig. IIRC there was a callen camper on a fuso fg that sold for under 20k a few months ago on here. something like that might work well for you. 14k+ GVW , 4x4, and the ability to tow. and on a 20 foot chassis, you get ~15-16ft of usable living space because of the cab forward design.
(link to said camper)
here's someone who lists their entire process for choosing the rig they did - a tiger http://www.best-in-snow.net/dog-tru
a current build on here, dodge 5500 with flatbed and flatbed camper http://www.expeditionportal.com/for...Expedition-Camper-The-build-has-started/page5
a custom build fuso that sold for 80k http://www.expeditionportal.com/for...bishi-Fuso-FG-2004-Expedition-Camper-for-sale
found this on kijiji in alberta 98.5k for a fuso build - cant be registered in the USA though http://fortmcmurray.kijiji.ca/c-car...-FG-4X4-Expedition-Vehicle-W0QQAdIdZ325888958
hackney's solution was to put a bigfoot camper on a fuso chassis http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/4wd-overland-tech/mitsubishi-canter-fg-140-4x4-24502 to quote him from his build site "The basic concept of the chassis, camper, pivot frame and storage boxes could be duplicated for ~$100,000 USD." though his total budget was 275k - including motorcycles, all other systems etc that he put into the truck (solar, etc)

My wife and I have been full-timing in a pop-up truck camper for 3 months now, covered 10,000 miles in that time and have 7-8 months to go still. it is working for us (there are definitely some 'kinks' that I would like worked out but like others have said in this thread so far in response, there is ALWAYS compromise! and you have to live with it. whatever it is. for us it is the pop-up design and the lack of insulation in the soft wall that is annoying (30 degree nights in canada/maine got to be a pain really quickly even with our catalytic heater running)).
I guess what i'm getting at is, depending on your definition of what you need for living full time in a "camper" or "rv" or whatever is the first step to figuring out what vehicle will "work' for you. ultimately though it will take getting out there and just doing it to realize that you really have too much or too little once you're on the road so to speak. after 2 months on the road my wife and I stopped by our storage unit and left more stuff behind (we started off packing then halving and halving again even)
good luck with whatever you choose and have fun on the adventure

It would be ideal to build the camper myself, the outcome would be exactly how I have envisioned it and I wouldn't have to be nervous of having anything done wrong throughout the process. The problem is that I would not be able to work as quickly as a team of men in a factory setup. It would be more economical to just hire the job out to them.

Thank you for all of the links. The Fuso and camper idea really interests us, it seems to be a fantastic deal for the money. However, it seems that it is not as versatile as something like the Provan Tiger. It seems that the Tiger would fare much better in towing an additional trailer and for going to town or boarding the ferry (which we might have to do and without the trailer of course). At any rate, we are still struggling between the Fuso and the Tiger, with the Fuso winning us over in terms of appeal (and probably irrationally disregarding functionality). Lance from EarthCruiser has also told us that they are releasing a sub 70k dual slide camper for the Fuso sometime next year.

I think insulating the camper is very important and shouldn't be too difficult for you to do since you have a soft wall. A makeshift way would be to use bulk Landau closed-cell foam on the walls adhered with sticky velcro. You could also make "sleeves" out of a synthetic insulation material like PrimaLoft and use them like curtains. I think with proper clothing though, 30 degrees would be very manageable. It is constantly around the mid-30s in our home and while it is a bit cold, we haven't found it necessary to have a fire unless it gets several degrees lower.
 

lblampman

Observer
It is constantly around the mid-30s in our home and while it is a bit cold, we haven't found it necessary to have a fire unless it gets several degrees lower.

Sheesh, I complain when it's in the mid-30s outside and even louder when it's below 70 degrees in our (motor)home. :Wow1:

:)

Les
 

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