Balancing Payload capacity vs. Offroad

[Todd780]

Pano roof, big inverter with the big 48v battery, power running boards, etc. All that nice stuff adds up 100 or 200 pounds at a time. .

Exactly this. That's why I skipped the pano roof and powerboost options when ordering my truck. It's a fairly loaded up XLT 302A FX4. Payload is 1,777 lbs.

I took the 20 lb payload hit that comes when you go from the 5.5 box to the 6.5. Figured the extra space was worth the 20 lb hit to my payload.

Probably should've stuck to the 18" wheels instead of the 20's. The tailgate step was probably my biggest payload hit, but I use it so often it was worth it.

As others have mentioned, yep. It's pretty much as big as a 3/4 ton crew cab s/box. Biggest factor to me is my work commute is 75 miles per day. The EcoBoost gets me much better mileage than the 7.3L would have and for 95% of the time, the truck is empty or not towing. So a 3/4 ton just wouldn't make sense for me. And when I priced them out, a XLT Super Duty with the same equipment was 10K more and didn't have the .099% finance rate.

 

[Bayou Boy]

Exactly this. That's why I skipped the pano roof and powerboost options when ordering my truck. It's a fairly loaded up XLT 302A FX4. Payload is 1,777 lbs.

I took the 20 lb payload hit that comes when you go from the 5.5 box to the 6.5. Figured the extra space was worth the 20 lb hit to my payload.

Probably should've stuck to the 18" wheels instead of the 20's. The tailgate step was probably my biggest payload hit, but I use it so often it was worth it.

As others have mentioned, yep. It's pretty much as big as a 3/4 ton crew cab s/box. Biggest factor to me is my work commute is 75 miles per day. The EcoBoost gets me much better mileage than the 7.3L would have and for 95% of the time, the truck is empty or not towing. So a 3/4 ton just wouldn't make sense for me. And when I priced them out, a XLT Super Duty with the same equipment was 10K more and didn't have the .099% finance rate.

Back in the early 20teens and aughts a LOT of people buying loaded up 3/4 tons were shocked when they realized what their payloads actually ended up being. This was before they bumped the GVWs on those trucks a bit. It was very common to see a diesel F250 4wd KR with under 2000# payload back then. But then Platinum F150s of the same years were down in the 1100-1200# area. I bought one used and was pretty shocked when I finally looked at the sticker. Now I know better.

 

[Gravelette]

Man, some people are so sensitive. This isn’t a peepee measuring contest.

If an HD works better for you, great. But don’t make it sound like 1/2 tons will implode upon touching dirt.

Back in the day, we used rangers and F100’s for work and camping way out yonder and neither of them exploded.
One reason I don’t like these forums is, if you don’t have a Ford or Toyota or Jeep or “x” brand, top of the line warn winch, ditch lights, $50k camper and 100k followers on Instagram. Well, you’re not really “overlanding.” Give me a break. 😂
Just take what you have and have fun. 🙂

By the way, here are some payload stickers.
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This one’s got the old HDPP package
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Is one of these yours? Was thinking you said 1900#.

 

[p nut]

Is one of these yours? Was thinking you said 1900#.

No, mine is 1,920. I just found those online.
I remember lots in that range back a few years ago. The brand new ones, I’m not sure about.

 

[Bayou Boy]

No, mine is 1,920. I just found those online.
I remember lots in that range back a few years ago. The brand new ones, I’m not sure about.

Honestly, it's kind of amazing that manufacturers are able to build trucks with payloads this high despite having to include more and more mandated safety equipment year after year that adds base weight.

If they were able to build trucks without .gov restrictions we would probably be seeing some pretty amazing stuff. The HO 6.7 in my truck is simply ridiculous and everyone that drives it drops their jaw. I could only imagine it without EPA crap all over it.

 

[TexasSixSeven]

Back in the early 20teens and aughts a LOT of people buying loaded up 3/4 tons were shocked when they realized what their payloads actually ended up being. This was before they bumped the GVWs on those trucks a bit. It was very common to see a diesel F250 4wd KR with under 2000# payload back then. But then Platinum F150s of the same years were down in the 1100-1200# area. I bought one used and was pretty shocked when I finally looked at the sticker. Now I know better.

17-19’ a F250 was maxed out at 10K GVWR. You couldn’t option then any higher. Now you can get short bed 250s with a 11,100 GVWR and long bed 250s with a 11,300 GVWR. My 17’ 350 long bed was optioned as high GVWR as it could get at the time, which was 11,500. Barely 3300 lbs payload. I regularly see XLT 250 6.7s runnng around with more payload than my 17’ 6.7 350 had, and it was only a Lariat. I looked long and hard at a 24’ 11,100 GVWR 250 with the 6.7 and XLT package that had 3480 payload last year.

 

[TexasSixSeven]

No, mine is 1,920. I just found those online.
I remember lots in that range back a few years ago. The brand new ones, I’m not sure about.

They were a lot easier to find a few years ago than they are now.

 

[weberjeff]

I'm in the market for a new truck and have been looking at several different models and driving a bunch of the 1/2 tons and 3/4 tons. I started looking at the Fords and found that when looking at the payloads and running the trailer weight, AT topper and stuff in the trailer, I've been using the Ford towing calculator to look at any particular truck on the lot. Towing CalculatorFordhttps://www.ford.com › support › towing-calculator. It took me out of the F150 Tremor market and put the F250 Tremor or Ram Rebel square in my sights. Now I struggle with the gasser vs diesel debate for the next rig. Ran a Diesel Excursion for over 10 years so I'm favoring the 7.3L Gas.

 

[Todd780]

I'm in the market for a new truck and have been looking at several different models and driving a bunch of the 1/2 tons and 3/4 tons. I started looking at the Fords and found that when looking at the payloads and running the trailer weight, AT topper and stuff in the trailer, I've been using the Ford towing calculator to look at any particular truck on the lot. Towing CalculatorFordhttps://www.ford.com › support › towing-calculator. It took me out of the F150 Tremor market and put the F250 Tremor or Ram Rebel square in my sights. Now I struggle with the gasser vs diesel debate for the next rig. Ran a Diesel Excursion for over 10 years so I'm favoring the 7.3L Gas.

Unless you're towing heavy, personally I'd go 7.3 gas Tremor.