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I meant they would not offer them in the US. They will the rest of the world.

And the last one they would ever do is the large engine. Emissions are grams per mile so getting it within the rules is much harder than the smaller engines.

They won’t continue diesels in the Disco or RR. It is not selling enough o justify the development cost and you can’t justify it for one model. Land Rover volumes are just way too small.

The current diesels are shared with Ford so the development for US emissions was not a problem. Doing it for this one model is probably just too much expense.

Also an electric fan does not increase power. The stock fan uses a viscous unit and uses no power except when required which is very rare.

Unless you have a larger turbo that produces higher boost a larger intercooler will do nothing to improve power.

I’m not saying the pre prod vehicles are not the same as what will be built. What I’m saying is they are not letting anybody drive one.

Nobody has sat in one. They don’t exist yet. It has all been preproduction prototypes. The first production models won’t be available until spring.

I’m pretty sure they have stated it is a fully aluminum structure.

They have stated that there are no plan to bring in any diesels. They would have needed to plan it during the engine design stage.

I’m not the one who said it could drive 99.99% of the trails in the world. The point is that they have made the new Land Rover something that is mediocre off road and it should be, IMO, world beating and breaking new ground. It should make every other brand in the world embarrassed off road. But...

Bwahahahahaha. Funniest thing I have read all week. Clearly you have never been on anything approaching a difficult trail. It will handle moderate trails at it best and that is as good as it will get.

IFS on cars you have to sell must use short arms in order to not take up interior space. This gives them poor wheel travel. All you need to do is spend a day off road with any modern Land Rover to understand the limitations and how much better are live axle multi link coil axles. If you do not...

They are bringing it to the US. They are using world class Engineers to design it for all markets. These guys are saying all of the right things. All the things that Land Rover is not saying.

You must be in a strange land. Every Land Rover owner I know goes off road. Very, very few Jeep owners do. As to the articulation point. My wife owned and wheeled a Rubicon at the same time as my 90. Stock articulation is almost exactly the same. The biggest difference is the 90’s ride is much...

And that there is the downfall of all the current Land Rover products. They think that the computers are smarter than the driver and that is when they get embarrassingly stuck on obstacles that normal truck drive threw with ease.

And you are the perfect new Defender owner then. And you are not the right person for a traditional Land Rover. My wife daily drives a 110 with an LT95. The point being that the Wrangler outsells the “Land Rover” by 10 times. The market is there and it is huge. The new Defender could have...

The point that you are missing is that it did not need to change in THIS WAY...... The Wrangler proves that.

Oh. It definitively does. You just have not been on hard enough trails.

Umm. Land Rover sells their other models with diesels in North America. It seems silly to leave out the Defender.