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Looking damn fine. I mean, ya I guess if this is never going to leave the US you can prob get away with 10MPG + 10-15 extra gallons so you have 300-350mi range is enough for basically anywhere in USA... but you kinda cant help putting stuff on the roof if its more than 1 person (friend or...

Just depends on the rig. I agree with no RTT or rack then it should be easy. But if you have stuff on the roof thats when you really start run into issues. TBH I see a lot of people not even able to maintain 16mpg stock which is bizarre but theres quite a few of them out there

I think in reality I should be shopping for a 460. Im going to go drive on IRL and see if I like it. I think that 1-2mpg that the460 will see over a 470 might be the deal breaker tbh. 11mpg vs 13 or 12 vs 14 is pretty big.

Ah I see. I dont like the460s as much for some reason. Not the outside or inside. I do like the MPG gain it made me consider it. But for 10k, I can beef up the 470 if that really became an issue for me, the payload. I just dont wanna be one of these guys sticking 40k into a car worth 13k KBB...

Im not that surprised that most people are recommending a truck. I think a small truck that can be lifted and do some tough trails is the ideal setup. Even a gladiator minus the wheelbase. I was trying to keep it in one car and i just am not a truck guy. If I have 2 cars then sure, I would...

Just depends on the build out. If someone has no rack, no RTT, no fridge, just a 2" lift and 33" E rated tires and some weekend gear in the back, I doubt doubt at all that one can maintain 14+MPG on the highway all day long. But thats also giving up a ton of comfort and amenities for a trip up...

You have the right idea for sure. It was something I looked at early on. I actually think about going with it until I graduate from it and then go onto a real build for more capable stuff. I was def considering the TH. I guess I could consider that again and being okay with keeping it mostly...

Ill find out. Driving my buddies JLU on 35s on Sat for a few hours up to Sequoia area

So my overall budget I would like to be around 30k (cash) all in. Obviously if I go with something like a GX for 10-15k Im not going to just slam 20k into it on day 1. When I first started this research I had no idea how overpriced used Rubicons were. Its actually insane. Maybe its irrational...

For one I am in the market right now. I wouldnt want to wait, wait for all the kinks, no aftermarket parts at first, unknown reliability. I thought about it tho

Interesting about it being cold. I get it. I feel like im beating a dead horse and not really gonna find the answer im looking for. I wonder also if its people who are buying E tires and slightly thinner vs wider tires and not E rated with lower PSI. Wonder if specific armor has significantly...

@Scott Brady What are you expecting your MPG to be at the end of this build? I guess since you are using this build for US only you dont care since its hard to go more than 200 miles round trip away from a gas station in the US.... Also why did you say the GX has a 19 gal tank when it says 23 gal?

For sure about types of driving. But I would assume in these big MPG threads people are talking averages here. For example today, I went on instagram and comment/asked a bunch of fully built out GX rigs their MPG. So only cars with full armor, (possibly not underneath), rack, RTT, custom...

Can someone help me out to understand why when I am asking or searching through past threads about MPG on the GX470 platform, some people fully loaded with 1200+ and even above GWVR are getting better MPG than simply someone running larger tires with a 2-3" lift and no rack and no armor RTT or...

Thanks for an honest reply. I dont mind honesty at all so nobody should be scared to sugarcoat. I understand 2/3 are inherently opposite goals but there realistically should be a sweet spot no? Not the best ride and not capable to do a serious rubicon type trail, but still capable and still...

Yea Im planning on 33s

Is an LR3 out of the question? Youtube happened to bring me to some videos of LR3s and LR4s while I was AFK. They are cheap, watched some videos of them in stock form and they are quite capable. Obviously less reliable. Obviously more expensive to maintain. I would say it takes a huge hit on the...

Bronco will be too new and untested most likely for me. Ill let the kinks wear off on that one. Any reason specifically 4runner when I mentioned GX? They are near identical but Lexus will have a smoother ride for the tarmac.

Thanks for the reply! LC is going to basically be a larger GX with an axle (potentially) and lockers. And a larger payload. But itll also be 2x the cost with more wear and tear than a mall crawler GX. Wouldnt I better off going with a GX still and putting lockers on it and larger brakes and go...

Hi guys. Newbie here. Ill try to give a lot of info and try to be concise to help you give me the best advice in the shortest amount of time. I read through some threads and saw people asking questions. Trying to give as much info without rambling. A) For now I am excluding trucks. I want to DD...