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So avoid 5-star rated vehicles or at least defeature some of the "technology" such as AEB which becomes standard in 2022. Then consider the move to part time 4WD / FWD ..... LR3/4/virtual "Defenders" and Full Size RRs with V8s and 2-speed xfer cases looking more attractive as they age.

Done deal ..... https://www.topgear.com/car-news/suvs/ineos-grenadier-will-now-be-built-france

It is a general consensus that LRs new "Defender" is the latest Discovery/LR5, that LR made an overt decision to not offer a true Defender class product. As LR new design director stated product decisions are not a democracy.

In summary the downturn in sales during 2018, which forced JLR to cut cost and begin the restructure, may have saved them from further covid damage and set the stage for recovery. https://www.autocarpro.in/news-international/covid-provides-fresh-start-for-jaguar-land-rover-77915

https://www.blackberry.com/us/en/forms/cylance/on-demand-video/webinar-controller-area-network-big-data-analytics-recording

In summary the new Defender is the best Discovery / LR5 Land Rover could design and offer. As LR's new design director Massimo Frascella stated design of next gen LR product is NOT a democracy and there is and will be actually very little input from the community. They have a vision and we knew...

The comparison point ....... https://www.motortrend.com/news/million-mile-tundra-the-tear-down/

Or you design the control system to be fault tolerant and self heal for intermittent events. Require multiple fails before reporting a failure. A really simple concept. A single line of code. Log the event for historical purposes. Hard fault? Manage accordingly.

FWD is on the roadmap for smaller lighter more fuel efficient products. There will be iterations of product features across the product line, from FWD baby defenders / small SUVs to full size selectable 4WD. At some point electric motors will need to be added to the product line. Keeping each...

Part time 4WD / AWD technology as LR moves to FWD and higher fuel mileage

https://caredge.com/land-rover/depreciation "......The 2016 is our top pick for the best model year value for the Land Rover vehicles. With the 2016, you would only pay, on average, 46% of the price as new, with 67% of the vehicle's useful life remaining...

Land Rover hasn't changed in decades. That has been true since the early days. You will always find inventory in NJ, TX, FL and CA. Go where the $$$ are. Houston has 15+ between two dealers. Price? Well dig deep.

..... Ineos

Land Rovers issue is depreciation for the original owner. A well equiped late model RR can be had for 50% of initial sales price. While that RR is still pricey, the new Defender is in the same ballpark price. And that RR probably has a V8 ...... Now about that hedge fund ....

So from Clarkson's perspective the new LR5/Defender/Discovery is a good 4WD for the hedge fund manager crowd that already has a Range Rover, a farm and needs a toy. For everyone else it is too expensive.

Industry sales are down month over month while Land Rover is saving JLR. Thinking Defender and Evoque are the sales leaders although Range Rover also up.

Agree with Hammond. The Defender is really the new Discovery. The LR5.

Today? Only at start-ups. By 2024/5? Well likely several locations. https://fuelcellsworks.com/news/california-air-resources-board-finalizes-draft-report-on-study-of-light-duty-hydrogen-fueling-station-economics/ ICE power trains ending by 2030? BEV energy density insufficient.

Not intending to take this conversation in another direction but ................ FCEV, Ineos (see Inovyn) and "overlanding" (long distance) ...

As for after-market support I'm expecting / not surprised that 3rd party vendors are taking a wait and see approach. The latest high-tech vehicles with on-board radar and collision avoidance technology will be significant roadblocks / development hurdles for anyone wanting to offer accessories...