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White contrast roof only comes on two colors as far as I can tell, green and blue. Try the Ownership --> Accessories --> Defender page. No prices yet though.

It's not that there isn't a market for a simple, cheap off-roaders, it's just not Land Rover's market. You want rowdy, that's Jeep, and that's America. It's spiking the ball and chugging a beer at the top of Everest. You want refined and a stiff upper lip, that's British and Land Rover. It's...

Looks bad@ss. I want all of the accessories for my D5....

Again, the computers are extremely reliable. They don't break. The ones in the Defender are also waterproofed.

Exactly my point. What you want doesn't meet collision, fuel economy, or emissions standards, so if you want one cheap, buy a Mahindra and a trailer and enjoy.

The feel of a turbodiesel is effortless. The delivery is so smooth at low speed - many NA gas engines you have to keep the revs high in the power and in low gear with the diffs locked, but diesels just pull. You don't need so much to drag boulders or pull stumps. But yeah, the range is...

Those folks fail to realize that of the wires don't break because they're in a loom that's wrapped and never move, they don't need to be field repairable / serviceable.

If you never change it, it should be cheaper to manufacture in the long run.

So do you want it easy to maintain or reliable? They did make it lighter and stronger, but to do that you can't make it cheaper - that's the tradeoff because manufacturing processes and materials to make it lighter and stronger are inherently more expensive. My Td6 I can change the oil by...

Agree on the diesel - off-roading in the D5 Td6 is effortless, especially above 10,000 feet on a 15+ degree rock garden. It just goes. Last I read from C/D, a diesel is just not coming *yet*, and it will be one of the Ingenium 4Cyls when it does. But, the P400 with its mild hybrid is...

So shouldn't it have been cheaper than the 2018 version? or the 1979 version?

Electronic braking systems, steering systems, and throttles have fewer moving parts and fewer failure points. And literally millions of road miles on them across the industry. In fact, these control systems were first developed for fighter jets in the 1970s because the control surfaces were...

Jesus, let's talk about a bloated, overpriced, ancient piece of iron. You can't get into a G-Wagen for less than $124K - that is literally what they start at.

Reliability is LR's original sin. Those who don't think LR vehicles are reliable will never, ever be convinced otherwise. There will always be a Friday car somewhere that someone will point to and say, "See?!?! I TOLD you so...." Wasn't too long ago Toyota recalled all their brand-new...

So you realize the $12K isn't just for the engine, right? It bumps you up to the SE which carries a number of other additions. I do wish they'd build perfectly to order but no automaker does that for the US market aside from the ultra high-end marques.

They do make that. It's called the Mahindra Roxor and it costs under $30K loaded.

What does "base" mean? You added $8,700 in options and extras.

$65k is maybe where a 130 pickup would start, but they'd get past $100k very quickly, and then they cannibalize sales from the full-fat Range Rover and the upcoming J-Pace, or worse - people choose the more luxurious and comfortable FFRR or sportier J-Pace for the money. Americans who love...

So much THIS. Most of the people on this thread have never even seen the last Defender made, much less sat in or driven one. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-T337A using Tapatalk

Yes, if that wasn't clear from my post, that's the order of things. Point is, dealers who charge a premium to order ahead put their allocation in jeopardy. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-T337A using Tapatalk