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    Post Pic's of your Jeep

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    New Defender News

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    New Defender News

    https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020-land-rover-defender-90-jeep-wrangler-price-comparison/ It's an interesting comparison- the D90 is still $11K more, but if you are already paying $50+ for a 2-door 4x4 maybe that extra $ amount every month is worth it to get the extras the D90 has and to have...
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    New Defender News

    https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020-land-rover-defender-off-road-features-review/ The good reviews keep coming!
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    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    Dated? haha,.,. you said since 2012. Let me get this right, you set the parameters- you said "I can find no evidence of widespread issues on vehicles made since 2012." I spend 5 minutes googling and produce reports from 2 different companies whose job it is to make risk analysis bets on cars...
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    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    So, I've been pretty vocal about the possible concerns with the Land Rover Defender. I feel the need to let you all know that I highly respect what LR is doing with the Defender and I hope that doesn't get lost in my taking up the position of Devil's Advocate. It's incredible that that vehicle...
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    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    Warranty Direct is a company that provides warranty coverage once your factory warranty has expired- per their analysis in 2017 of cars over the previous 4 years LR had the highest rate of post-warranty claims. The highest claim category overall for cars was suspension at 21% of claims with...
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    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    Wouldn't the warranty claims and recalls you seem to want to exclude from the conversation be the examples?
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    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    Scott Brady acknowledged in his Defender podcast that the elephant in the room with LR is reliability and durability. You couldn't have a full and honest conversation about LR without discussing it. I think for someone like him as a journalist it would border on being unethical if you didn't. I...
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    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    It's great that they've slashed their numbers in half- any company should be proud of that, but they are still at or near the bottom relative to everyone else now. While I appreciate what Scott Brady's message is- it's a unique way of looking at it- but it doesn't change the fact that while LR...
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    New Defender News

    Isn't it concerning though that while a 2020 LR is more reliable than LR products from almost 2 decades ago it's still not nearly as reliable as it should be relative to the other manufacturers today? In fact it was one of worst back then per the chart you posted, it was frequently at the bottom...
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    New Defender News

    T-Willy, I don't know why you insist on bringing facts, evidence and research into this conversation....there are fantasies to uphold!
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    New Defender News

    It's a good question @DieselRanger ! How long must the LR fans of the world go around wearing this Scarlet Letter R for Reliability? How about this- for every 1 year of LR being in the bottom 3rd of the reliability rankings we'll say the new Defender needs to have 4 months of reliability? Not...
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    New Defender News

    Totally agree, I also think some people want something to be true so desperately that they can't possibly see objective reality- it's probably a lot like what the parents of an ugly baby would feel- they love it, no matter what other objective people see.
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    New Defender News

    It does look cool though- needs an ARB Front Bumper :)
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    New Defender News

    It seems to me that some on here find it insulting when I compare the Defender to the Grand Cherokee- I don't mean it to be insulting. The Jeep Grand Cherokee is literally the most awarded SUV ever. It's incredibly capable off-road, has all of the interior luxury most people would ever want and...
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    New Defender News

    Apologies for the "TLDR"- some things don't fit on a bumper sticker- but here's a few quick quotes for those of us short on time- Car and Driver- https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a31911812/2020-land-rover-defender-drive/ - "Laggy In-line six, touchy brakes, non-defeatable stability control...
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    New Defender News

    Why am I still here and posting? ....perhaps it's because I'm an avid off-road enthusiast with the better part of 3 decades of experience? ;Maybe it's because I'm a subscriber to Overland Journal and have a deep interest in the topics being discussed?; Or it could be because I'm active on...
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    New Defender News

    I'll take that as a statement towards people in general and not towards me personally as I'm sure that's how you mean it. Just like the way that I mean when I say that I think some people want something to be true so bad that they can't see any piece of objective evidence that runs counter to...
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