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    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    It's interesting to me that fans of Land Rover would like this sticker. Superficially, I get it, it looks much better- most anything with a lift kit looks better, lift kits are like putting cheese on something- it's the rare thing it won't make better. However, if you get past fantasy land and...
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    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    I'm not sure that 70 years of staying true to your design origins could in any way be characterized as "trendy"... seems like just the opposite. I would say that the Jeep is the most honest design. The Defender and the Jeep would both fall on most anyones list of most iconic 4x4s of all time-...
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    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    I was definitely one of those people that would have cross-shopped. I guess I did to the extent I could. Drove a D5- thought is was rather boring. Drove nice, but I've got my wife's Benz when I want to dress fancy and roll in a luxury-mobile. I like that the Rubi is less refined, more like a...
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    New Defender News

    https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020-land-rover-defender-110-hse-p400-review/
  5. J

    My turn ...

    Good luck and look forward to reading about your adventures!
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    Jeep Museum Coming Soon

    I've visited the Harley Museum in Milwaukee and it gives you a real sense of history and place of the Harley. It's cool to see the evolution of the product and how closely it's remained to the original. I'd imagine the Jeep museum will feel very much the same.
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    Defender

    Any ideas as to why they put the gear selector up on the dash instead of on the steering wheel column? I get that not having it in the console allows for storage in the console or the 3rd middle seat, but why a handle selector up on the dash?
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    Defender

    That's awesome, congratulations!!!
  9. J

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    I don't really understand the argument that IFS handles so much better than solid axles- it entirely depends on what you value. Yes, IFS "handles" better assuming you want a car-like ride. My wife had a Benz- comfortable as hell, drove like you were riding on a cloud, it would lull you to sleep...
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    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    I think it's really sad that the new Defender will just never be this cool! It had potential, but they instead created a vehicle with no purpose- it's not nice enough to be luxury, not utility enough to be useful- the Jeep is at it's core utilitarian, you can upscale it to luxury if you like...
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    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    I'm really disappointed that we are focused on pedestrian deaths when we are supposed to be slamming the Defender...look at the title of this thread- it's about how bad the Defender is, unless someone has facts that show how a pedestrian is more likely to be injured by a Defender because of the...
  12. J

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    Agree; it looks disconnected. I like the back, but the front is terrible in my opinion. Nothing a classic-style ARB Front Bumper wouldn't fix!
  13. J

    Post Pic's of your Jeep

    Parking Lot Poser shots, but I just got everything wrapped up- I'll get into the mountains soon!
  14. J

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    This is a music fest? ....With the poser shots of the Defender kicking up some dust in a dirt parking lot I thought is was the "hardcore" off-roading of Trek. :)
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    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    That is a very good looking blue!
  16. J

    Moab Family Jeeping & Hiking- With Bacon!

    What a great trip! My wife and I love Onion Creek- really cool road with some great hiking nearby.
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    Who ordered a New Defender ?

    I think it's interesting and probably very challenging for LR, that the Defender has so many competitors and LR seems to be taking on all of them. The base model at below $50K makes it a Wrangler/4Runner competitor and it goes all the way up to taking on the AMG G63 at well over $100K. That's a...
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    Who ordered a New Defender ?

    Great example of a worthwhile conversation between 2 people who have some common interests, but maybe don't totally agree on everything...it is possible after all! :) I think it's awesome that LR is doing the Treks..I hope they knock it out of the park. the D5s from Lucky 8 look incredible and...
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    Who ordered a New Defender ?

    Not trying to speak on RedRover's behalf, but I stay pretty involved on a variety of forums and see a wide-ranging set of opinions on vehicles. Furthermore, I've spent the last 2 years in particular reading, test-driving, talking with people who own various vehicles trying to decide which one to...
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