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Whats better the Wraptor 4k or the OVS? Seem like they are very similar, are there build quality differences?

Excatly correct. GX470 can barely fit 285/70 which is 32.6-32.8 depending on make. My tire is 33.1 so almost for sure I cant make it. Would have to compress it!

Totally agree. Thats why im saying apples to apples if the AT3 for him was really louder than the ST maxx and RT then something is wrong IMO. Both of those tires objectively should be less loud based on what the manufacture says. Also some tires just are unlucko, we see this all the time with...

Yeah but look at the pics in the application, those aren't meant to squeeze the tire into a space it wouldnt fit without the strap. This is what I meant by OP I assume that was clear to most people. Strapping a tire is fine, having a tire that would not fit but you are deflating and then...

Yeah I totally get it, im not saying you're intentionally lying, but your experience is clearly a fluke or since this is a very subjective thing, maybe at that period of time you felt it was really loud but it actually wasn't.. IDK. The RT and the AT3 are both Toyo.. they have their own rating...

What about 1-2 years down the road and you finally need to use it? Still fine?

And you say the AT3s are also more noisy than the RTs?

Also, if I cant find a 255/80, I can certainly find a 32" tire or a 285/70 - as far as GX being full time 4x4, which would be more ideal? A 32" tire with a bunch of 33" tires or a 32.7" tire with 11.4" width vs 10" width. I would think the smaller tire is better. over the 285/70.

FB groups go back and forth, some say itll ruin the tire and others say it doesnt matter. Ive found theres lots of truly experienced people here, thought Id see what people think. Im trying to find a used tire to put under there so I dont care if the tire gets ruined but 255/80 is not a common...

Seems like some of the larger sizes are 3 ply, my E rated are 2 ply - Mine arent mounted tho - consideration I wasnt thinking of cause I am in Socal, lots of rocks, maybe I do need to consider something like ST maxxs

This legit makes no sense. Theres no way the AT3 should be louder than the ST maxx. Obviously nothing is apples to apples when it comes to aggressive vs noise as we have MTs that are not as loud as hybrids etc but this makes no sense to me nor does it reflect what others are saying.

Its interesting that a lot of long time experienced guys refer to 255/80 (the size he has) as a 10.5" wide wheel when in fact its 10" which is narrower than stock on all Lexus and Toyota platforms. GX, Tacoma, 4runner FJ. I have found several people online when doing my research on 255/80 over...

Thanks man. Leaning heavily towards this. Do you know if your buddy needed to do a BMC? I doubt it. Is he running spacers? Right now im trying to find the answer to whether I can run 17x8.5 -12 offset with 255/80 without a BMC. (Im fine with eventually getting a BMC but I have 2 trips coming up...

Ok I cant really choose a tire, just a rambling and hopefully someone can convince me of something. I originally wanted the Kendas no questions asked when most places on the internet claim they are 52-52lbs, but they are really 61.5lbs and thats a big jump from the stock 38lbs. That alone puts...

Thats a solid point. Multiple vendors specialize in rebuilt 8.2s to sell to 8" users

Agreed. I feel like GXOR has it a little blown out of proportion which was why I wanted to get an opinion here. Polar opposite viewpoints in the end so hard to know what to think. Expo seems to think as you saw that its kidna odd that anyone would be blowing their 8" without insanely heavy loads...

My issue with this (which is what a lot people say) is that unless youre out there with someone whow ill tow you out for free, itll cost more money to get your car to a shop then the upgrade itself... especially since you can sell a functioning 8" to offset a decent percent of the 8.2" - Thats...

Thats the 460, not the 470. 470 has an 8"

Is it for sure tho? The guy who started GXOR and was the one of the first people modding GXs for off road in the USA and was ordering parts for Prados when there wasnt a market for anything yet has been in the group and observed the most GX convos than any living person and his famous line is...

Looks like the consensus is that Im overthinking it. But these 33s would yield a 35% increase over stock sprung weight. Obv I know of GXs with wheels that add 10+lbs and then 35s which are closer to 70lbs so theyve got a solid 60% increase and they aren't auto destroying their diffs.