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Wow! Thats a lot of stuff and people! Good to see your taking advantage of what the vehicle has to offer! While I like the idea of camper shells in general, they don't tend to fair to well on the sierra trails. I've seen a number of tops, roofs, and rear side windows destroyed by vehicles...

I do have a tire swingout and I mount a five gallon water jug on it also. I don't really want to mount anymore on it though. Yes, I should have mentioned I did a similar idea to the dog barrier. I used a stretchy cargo net behind the rear seats and up to the ceiling. Its imperative to keep...

It has always seemed odd to me that a JLU has 14" more wheelbase than my 4runner, but a foot less cargo space. Most new vehicles aren't much different though. Newer 4runners are wider which is nice, but they really maximized that seating area at the expense of rear cargo area. In addition, if...

I know its been awhile and I thought I should update this thread. Actually ran across this thread again on a recent search of the yet again the same subject. Also, not picking on vtsoundman, but his post ironically is exactly the problem, I am going rock crawling/hard trails with my family...

I'm pretty much in the same boat with two boys that are now 8 and 8.5yrs old. You can do the trailer thing if your not going that hard or plan to base camp somewhere. If your going to really wheel though, the trailer can become a large liability on the trail. I remember a friend borrowed...

I don't get where you need to put a ton of money into an older ride to have something reliable. I've recently finished the latest round of mods on my pickup-err...1994 4runner, and its been completely reliable. I too have redone quite a bit on it (swapped to a GM 4.3 engine and trans, dual...

How about an old toyota conglomeration? I had an 1988 toyota pickup that was super simple and took me all over the southwest. I'd throw some camping stuff in the back and take off to colorado for a week and a half, or go hit the rubicon or dusy ershim trails. Those were the good ole simple...

What do you guys use for plates? Paper plates or plastic or something else? What's considered the norm in this area? I have been using paper plates. Its just always made sense to me and I only ever use one plate at night. After its used if it is dirty it goes into the campfire(easy cleanup...

I guess that kinda brings up another point though about the US market vs others, over here we probably have access to better vehicles for those situations. Kudos to you for driving a jeep LJ to alaska, I can't imagine that at my age anymore! I might have attempted it back in the day with my...

I see all these ideas and all I can think is, "how much crap do you need?"! I think its really the differences in how people are traveling that your seeing. I mean most folks in the US don't do month long expeditions to africa or other very remote locations. I surely wouldn't want to put gas...

Yup, just like the internets. Lots of opinions! Glad your happy with what you have.

My 14 ram 2500 looks the same. Honestly the rear panhard was rubbing on the stock size spare. I've attempted to make a rear panhard to clear a 35" spare, but it just winds up looking like a noodle. Kevin

Great. In the end it is still just their opinion on the matter. Opinions will defer and customers experiences will be different. Kevin

That would be very difficult and very subjective to personal tastes. What is soft for you may be stiff to someone else. The OEMs have to provide weight ratings, but even they still have lots of consumer complaints, hence the aftermarket. I imagine the OP doesn't want to throw more money at...

That's and interesting idea. I have been wanting to come up with a fold down surface off of the tire swingout for the stove. Kinda also thinking of replacing the carpet on the tailgate to some UHMW cutting board like material. The problem with a shelf is how to support it? Its easy to incase...

Yes, stopping to make lunches for example. We usually bring snacks in a backpack for everyone and keep that up near the front. Stopping for lunch though means unpacking half the truck to get to the bread. I have not had everyone with me on the rubicon yet. I'm not sure if I ever will...

Those are a good price point, but look at all that space they waste! So far I'm digging the front runner boxes and the Ridgid tool boxes from home depot. Kevin

A lot of questions about traveling with a family seem to center around sleeping arrangements, I'm more curious about how you pack a family of 4 into a jeep JK/JL or toyota 4runner? Show me how you organize things. Also figure its only going to be a 4 day, 3 night trip. For reference, I like...

What is everyone using for storage totes or how do you carry your dry food while expeditioning? We all have coolers and fridges, and I've seen a few camp kitchen setups, but I never seen what people are carrying their bread, chips, canned goods, etc... in. I've seen a lot of people use those...

I bought this about a year ago: Whynter FM-452SG Its been great! I do a bit of rockcrawling and I've been trying to take the family along at times. With two boys and mom its hard to bring enough stuff to camp out of the back of our 4runner. Bringing multiple coolers is not an option. By...