Timod110
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1124 AF Double Cab
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Neil
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Ref Composting Toilet.
I wonder how practical they are to use with a family of small children.
How easy would it be to keep the urine separate with toddlers, who lets face it , cant even get it in the bowl, let alone a small container. A few mistakes and , as i understand it, it could be very detrimental to the composting process.
It would be interesting to here a real use review from any families with small Children who have used one for some time.
I agree totally with Joe , that this would probably be a much better option than the Cinderella type device.
Neil
I wonder how practical they are to use with a family of small children.
How easy would it be to keep the urine separate with toddlers, who lets face it , cant even get it in the bowl, let alone a small container. A few mistakes and , as i understand it, it could be very detrimental to the composting process.
It would be interesting to here a real use review from any families with small Children who have used one for some time.
I agree totally with Joe , that this would probably be a much better option than the Cinderella type device.
Neil
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Hi, different question, trying to finalise the truck changes and box design. At the moment I'm ending up with a height of about 3.7 - 3.8m. Its slightly higher than the suggested max of 3.5m but means I can carry a full size adventure bike in a garage below the bed, still have reasonable headroom above on the bed and a rear departure angle of 27 degrees. Looking at quite a few of the commercial trucks, they seem to be about this height but any thoughts? Equally any thoughts on 27 degrees departure angle? Want to make sure we build the truck so that it still has good clearance
Sitec
Adventurer
We cut the rear of the chassis down, so the bumper could sit flush with the rear of the body and incorporate the twin spare wheels... Could you do similar and have the bikes sat in a cradle behind the rear lights, thus sitting lower? If you run a mast type lifting system then you don't have to have any lifting mechanism under the bikes, and the bottom of the bike tyres is the lowest point on the whole system. Ours is at 3.5, and though we've not been anywhere yet, I look at it and think that I wouldn't want it any higher...
Shout if you want more info.
Shout if you want more info.
Hi Joe, Sitec, thanks for comments. This is the design so far so we are looking at accommodating a full size adventure bike (KTM 1290 Adventure) in the garage. I started looking at designs to put it on the back but read quite a lot of comments re the amount of dirt that ends up going on them. The other couple of thoughts were trying to get the weight closer to the rear axle and staying within about 8.5m length. Also intending carrying kayaks on roof rack above cab (given the extended fire engine cab, its about 2.9m so we have enough space for the kayaks. but means I think we get fairly close to that height anyway. This design does include 100mm spacers under the cabin to help the clearance angle, I think without it, the rear clearance reduces to 24 degrees.
Sitec
Adventurer
That sits on there really well, and with the space above the cab filled in (roof top tents or roof rack) and some side skirts to match the body it'll look really good. It's nice that the base of the hab box matches the front cab wheel arch. It will look uniform too! Looking forward to seeing this progress!
Hi SItec, thanks for that, hopefully going to work well. I like the Bocklet designs as per below pictures so hopefully by colour coding the bottom section of the garage same as the lockers then looks quite level rather than having a big garage hanging off the back. Atkinson Vos doing a great job getting the design to work.
Geo.Lander
Well-known member
Cool progress! really like the design, we are also working with AK to design our box and intermediate frame, also very happy with the process so far!
Hi, back on wheels and tyres as have to order. I think I'm going with the 20 inch rims, I get the availability benefits of 22.5 but I do want the ability to air down and I think I can manage round availability. So based on 20 inch rims, Atkinson Vos have suggested Mitas 365/80R20 MPT21 tyres. Does anyone have any experience with Mitas and / or this size?
Neil
Observer
Hi Toby
Not heard of them, they look meaty, probably quite noisy
Do you know how hard the compound is, i know that some of the chunky tyres can be quite soft and only last for relatively short distances, especialy on the surfaces they were intended for.
What is is your work around plan on getting over the lack of availabiliy in some regions
Will you be carying a couple of spares.
Neil
Not heard of them, they look meaty, probably quite noisy
Do you know how hard the compound is, i know that some of the chunky tyres can be quite soft and only last for relatively short distances, especialy on the surfaces they were intended for.
What is is your work around plan on getting over the lack of availabiliy in some regions
Will you be carying a couple of spares.
Neil
Hi Neil, thanks for this. useful observation, I'll try and find out on the compound. Trying to see if anyone has any real world experience with them.
Re availability, we will carry two spares. Beyond that, thinking if we ship to another part of the world, I'll ship extra tyres only so at least they are in territory and hopefully sending as part of shipping the truck shouldn't be more then I'll need to find somewhere to store them. I think our most likely trip requiring shipping is across to Canada / Alaska so whilst we could be some distance from them, certainly in Canada we are getting them moved within country. I don't think we are likely to take the truck to South America, at least not for some years and we might re think wheels at that point. I really like Charlie's advice about being able to air down to get traction hence thinking I'll go with 20s and some sort of CTIS.
Re availability, we will carry two spares. Beyond that, thinking if we ship to another part of the world, I'll ship extra tyres only so at least they are in territory and hopefully sending as part of shipping the truck shouldn't be more then I'll need to find somewhere to store them. I think our most likely trip requiring shipping is across to Canada / Alaska so whilst we could be some distance from them, certainly in Canada we are getting them moved within country. I don't think we are likely to take the truck to South America, at least not for some years and we might re think wheels at that point. I really like Charlie's advice about being able to air down to get traction hence thinking I'll go with 20s and some sort of CTIS.
Geo.Lander
Well-known member
Just a word of caution, you will not find 20" tires or tubes in Norway and much of the EU unless you order them from specialists. So forget about roadside assistance. Also, the 22.5 is much more technologically advanced (I am told), quieter, better winter grip (in most cases with 3PMSF), more kms, more sophisticated compounds, etc.
I of course have not much experience with either, but I have noticed quite a few comments on threads here on the subject. I have to admit, the 20" does have "the look" thou
And I bet the sand performance once aired down is much much better..
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