1983 SR5 tires

There is a thread for these trucks that may be interesting for you to look at. Check out post #112 on page 12 for a before and after shot of an OME lifted truck. OME may be closer to 3". Don't know what the tire size is, but it may be bigger than 31". Consider that with the lift you may need extended brake lines, and the steering geometry is changed. http://www.expeditionportal.com/for...-First-Gen-Pickup-Hilux-(79-83)-Thread/page12

You can clearly see the long shackles he used on that truck. If you used stock shackles front and rear, it would bring it down just about an inch.

I used a custom high steer setup on the '87 I'm building and it barely fits. What I mean is, any lower and I would not think it was a good idea. But to be able to use a high steer you will also need to convert to an IFS steering box too.

Extended brake lines are not a bad idea.

Cost for this lift:
Springs and bushings- $400 for all four
IFS Box - $300 rebuilt or $75 used
IFS Box Mount Kit - $75
High Steer - $300
Brake Lines - $75
Shocks - about $75 to $100 each

Probably want to rebuild (or reseal) the knuckles and repack the wheel bearings too for an additional $150.

You can probably delete the IFS box and high steer, but you will need to get the lifted J-Arm for the driver's side knuckle and I don't know if those are even available anymore. I have a used on if anyone wants it.
 

tanglefoot

ExPoseur
What part of the country are you in? Do you get much snow/ice? Does your truck have power steering?

I used to commonly use 31x10.50 with OME front springs (and rear add-a-leaves) but I prefer the way the truck drives on 30x9.50...it brings the transmission gears a little closer together, gives it a bit more oompf, better braking and easier steering.

I used to think mud tires were pretty fun but I'm done with them now. Now I like quiet, fast-rolling A/Ts (which also usually do well in winter conditions). There are lots of good choices. I'd be interested in trying the Cooper Discoverer AT3.
 

jgallo1

Adventurer
I live in Ca, the little truck will not really see snow, maybe once or twice a year. It will see more logging trails, sand, etc..

I just put the cooper dicoverer AT3's on my wife's 4 runner. They have been great so far. They are super quiet on the road with great HWY manors. We had the 4 runner out in Arizona and New Mexico last month, The AT3's did great through the high desert.

I like cooper tires. I am thinking of putting the S/T maxx on my 1st gen. tacoma. I have been running the Tacoma stock, b/c I had a lifted Tundra. The Tundra is no longer with us. I just got the full OME kit for the tacoma. I am trying to decide between 255/85 or 235/85 for the tacoma right now ( alittle off topic ). I always appreciate hearing different opinions.
I Like Toyota Trucks
 

jgallo1

Adventurer
There is a thread for these trucks that may be interesting for you to look at. Check out post #112 on page 12 for a before and after shot of an OME lifted truck. OME may be closer to 3". Don't know what the tire size is, but it may be bigger than 31". Consider that with the lift you may need extended brake lines, and the steering geometry is changed. http://www.expeditionportal.com/for...-First-Gen-Pickup-Hilux-(79-83)-Thread/page12

I have to say Blind Cleric, I like the truck in post #112 better before the lift. Thanks for the Link.
 

nvdesertrunner

New member
I just put the OME light/medium springs on my 85 4runner with 31x10.5 tires and I don't think the tires look too small. Maybe a little small...but not bad at all. Down the road I may go with bigger tires but I don't want to deal with gearing issues at the moment.

Also, I have no clearance issues with stock steering setup.



I did a little writeup over on Yotatech if you want a couple pictures of stock steering clearance: http://www.yotatech.com/f115/ome-suspension-install-tips-290242/
 

Doc_

Sammich!
Old Man Emu is pretty much the go-to for a bolt-on set of springs across the board for most Toyotas, and you really can't go wrong with them. They'll also help level out the factory stinkbug stance of these trucks. There are also cheaper options, but most tend to ride rough and add bad stresses to the vehicle and driver.

As far as tires go, I like what's being said: 30-31" tires with stock gears, but anything taller will need a regear. 33" is kind of the upper limit before you might need to consider stronger axle shafts and birfs. Getting into the 34-35" range is when it's usually recommended to upgrade your steering, the factory push-pull system can have trouble with the added weight.
My own personal bias speaking, I do not like Super Swampers. They look nice and they're pretty good off-road, but their road manners are rough and they can be dangerous in the rain or snow.
 
My own personal bias speaking, I do not like Super Swampers. They look nice and they're pretty good off-road, but their road manners are rough and they can be dangerous in the rain or snow.

I would never drive my Rover in the rain. That would be suicide.

I like them because they were the right size for the look I was after. Because they were $140 each. Because they are bias ply and they work great off road.
 

Derek24

Explorer
The irok ND I have, have been the best rain tire of all the tires I've had. These tires actually have sipping, they do great offroad, not too loud, and we're $119 a tire! Best bang for the buck i believe for these trucks.
 

jgallo1

Adventurer
Old Man Emu is pretty much the go-to for a bolt-on set of springs across the board for most Toyotas, and you really can't go wrong with them. They'll also help level out the factory stinkbug stance of these trucks. There are also cheaper options, but most tend to ride rough and add bad stresses to the vehicle and driver.

As far as tires go, I like what's being said: 30-31" tires with stock gears, but anything taller will need a regear. 33" is kind of the upper limit before you might need to consider stronger axle shafts and birfs. Getting into the 34-35" range is when it's usually recommended to upgrade your steering, the factory push-pull system can have trouble with the added weight.
My own personal bias speaking, I do not like Super Swampers. They look nice and they're pretty good off-road, but their road manners are rough and they can be dangerous in the rain or snow.

Doc,
I agree, I have 4 Different toyota trucks and used OME on them all. When I was younger I lived in South Africa, We used toyota and OME everything...
 

jgallo1

Adventurer
Thanks again for all the input. On my Tacoma I am pretty sure I will use the 255/85 and on the 1983 most likely the 31x10.5
 

jgallo1

Adventurer
Another question any one have opinions on the 22r vs. 22re? I know that 22re is fuel injection. I have not had a truck with out fuel injection in a long time. Is there a huge advantage to the 22re?
 

Doc_

Sammich!
Another question any one have opinions on the 22r vs. 22re? I know that 22re is fuel injection. I have not had a truck with out fuel injection in a long time. Is there a huge advantage to the 22re?

Stoffregen's got it pretty well summed up, EFI vs. carb. The power figures are about 20 HP apart: 96 vs. 115.
The biggest difference is that there are two generations of 22R: 1980-1985 and 1985-1995. The earlier model had a taller deck and domed pistons and peaked at about 96 ponies. EFI is rare for this generation, mostly available from parted out Celicas. The GenII engine has a shorter block and deck, with the pistons dropping further into the block as opposed to reaching higher up into the deck. These engines have flatter pistons and combustion chambers and are more "modern" in that they like to rev up higher and make more power at high RPM. Parts between these engines are largely incompatible, however early carburetor intake manifolds can bolt onto later heads.

Which is better? Depends on who you talk to. I personally like the GenI engine because its torque band is down nice and low so you can get decent working power out of it without winding it up too hard. I've often joked that these engines are the closest thing to a diesel motor a gasoline motor's ever been. On the other hand, if you want hassle-free life, the EFI of the GenII engine is the way to go, it's too stupid to die.

Doc,
I agree, I have 4 Different toyota trucks and used OME on them all. When I was younger I lived in South Africa, We used toyota and OME everything...

That's awesome! Yeah, OME did it right and built up their gear for markets like SA and AUS, I would trust their products implicitly over many of the "budget" options available here in the US. They go the extra step: poly bushings, serviceable plated shackles, nitrogen-charged shocks and double military wraps on the eyes.

You mentioned chasing logging trails here in California, where are you typically exploring?

I would never drive my Rover in the rain. That would be suicide.

I like them because they were the right size for the look I was after. Because they were $140 each. Because they are bias ply and they work great off road.

I hope it didn't come across like I was bagging on Super Swampers; they are a really good budget-minded tire, I was just responding to the OP's interest in them.
 

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