2.0L turbo four for the new Wrangler?

kojackJKU

Autism Family Travellers!
Your amusement doesn't negate the fact that my job requires a very high degree of physical skill and strength, as well as a very high degree of techinical knowledge and problem-solving. Moreso than 90% of any desk job, and you don't have to spend your day doing a full-body work out every day. Imagine lifting weights, on a tredmill, while doing whatever desk job it is you're scoffing at me from. Oh, and by the way, if I screw up in my job, someone could die. But hey, I'm just a dumb grease monkey.

The gist of your post also is ignoring direct injection. Not port injection. Direct injection. Which has only been on domestic engines in wide use in the last 5ish years. But just carry on in your narrowminded little world, and I'll keep upgrading my skillset yearly to keep up with ever progressing technology. And even accepting your numbers, how can you refute the fact that it produces 10hp more, out of less displacement, and produces nearly the same mileage numbers; and that that is impressive ...? "The 3.0 basically matched the 2.0 across the board and got better mileage.. " well, if your numbers are anything to credit, it makes 10hp better, and the mileage is a wash since EPA numbers rarely match up perfectly to real world conditions.

There was no 4cyl in the prevoius Mustang. There hasn't been one since the 90s. The 2.3L EB is new, it was released in 2015. According to Fuelly (which is a much better, real world number than the EPA gives), the 3.7L NA V6 in the current generation Mustang gets 19mpg average. The 2.3L EB has 2 spikes in the averages, at 23 and 25mpg. Those are real-world numbers. The 2.3L also straight up outperforms the V8, and requires nothing more than a flash-tune to romp all over it. The only reason I'm bothering to continue with the Mustang conversation is because it's a somewhat relavant comparision, and because MrWesson has chosen to use this as his arguing point.


Agreed 100%. I come from small engine building. and DI turned the snowmobile engine world on its head as well.....Better power, milage, and way less emissions. And you can even tune them the same way. A win win win for us 2 stroke addicts. There is nothing better than pushing the launch button on a 200 hp supercharged, DI 2 stroke sled that weighs less than 400 lbs. That's fun right there I don't care who you are.

And having that tech now in auto's.....its great! small boosted engines with NO down sides.

I also agree with your comments on desk jockeys too! I got some fancy book lern'in, but I cannot figure out what this 710 cap is for on my "motor".
 

GFA

Adventurer
I was very skeptical about the turbo 6 vs having a V8 when I was looking into a new truck last year as I've never owned a full sized truck without a diesel or at least a V8. A quick drive of two of the exact same trucks other than the engines completely squashed that. I absolutely love my 3.5eb and doubt I'd ever go back to a NA-V8. I can't for the life of me figure out why other than cost people are not swapping these into other vehicles vs V8's. My '16 JKUR at 70mph runs right at 2500rpm which is where the 3.5eb produces it's max torque of 420lb-ft. I haven't looked at the #'s for a hemi swap in a while but I doubt it produces that much at such low rpm's.
 

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