2000 Ram 2500 V10 and 2014 Northstar TC800 Camper

ExpoMike

Well-known member
Let's go back in time, to Oct 2021. I had been working on my M1010 project ( Desert Turtle ) off and on for a bit. After a lot of consideration, I felt it would be easier to buy a newer truck, with modern features and swap the ambo box over. I started looking for suitable options. Sadly this was the height of COVID pricing and used truck prices were just off the scale for what I was looking for. In my constant looking on Facebook Marketplace, this 2000 Ram 2500 4x4 long bed popped up. I called and setup to view/buy it the next day. Price, though higher than I wanted to pay, was at a reasonable level given the market. I would have loved another 2nd Gen Ram Cummins like my '97 I had owned but I didn't want to pay a $5000-$10000 premium for it and most were over 200K miles at that. The market hasn't gotten a lot better in 2024....

We drove up to Long Beach area to check it out. It looked fairly clean, was an 8.0L V10 with 83,000 miles. This was a fully optioned model with camper package and towing package. The owner had built a flatbed, which wasn't a big deal as I was going to remove it and put the ambo box off the M1010 on it. We made the deal and we drove it home. Fast forward a few months and it was time to take the flatbed off. That was challenging in our driveway as it was HEAVY. Okay, I started getting things prepped to take the box off the M1010. I had done my measurement and length and wheelbase looked to work fine. Before I got the box off, I happened to notice a neighbor's truck sitting behind the M1010 on the street. I noticed the newer truck was wider than the M1010. Hummm..... tape measure in hand, the one measurement I didn't check was width. The Ram was 3" wider than the M1010 box. With the way that box is built, there was no easy way to make the wheelwells wider and once I started chopping, there would be no turning back if it didn't work. At that point I scraped that plan...

At that point, we were not sure what we would do with the Ram. Since the M1010 project was not making as much progress as quickly as I hoped, we talked about getting a camper and using this setup until the M1010 was done. I started looking for one in Oct 2022 and found this one while we were on vacation. We happened to be up in Prescott Valley and the camper was in Mesa, AZ. On our way home, we stopped by to look at it. It was a 2014 Northstar TC800 popup camper. The couple had bought it new and have used it over the years. It has been to Alaska and back. Since they were getting older, they decided to buy and Alasken camper and was selling this. We agreed on a fair price and that we would come over during our holiday break in Dec. to pick it up. I prepped the flatbed so we could tie the camper down and headed over to pick it up. Loading it went as plan and we headed back to San Diego.

Once back in San Diego, I went to get the rig weighed and much to my surprise, it came in at 8760 lbs with a 8800 lbs GVWR. I knew the flatbed weighed a lot having weighed the truck with and without it. It was almost 900 lbs. Much of 2023 things sat, since I had knee replacement surgery and that killed much of the year. 2024 rolls around and it's time to start thinking of what we are going to do. I decided I was going to swap back to a truck bed and the hunt was on. I managed to find a guy not far, who was looking for a flatbed and had a clean 2nd Gen bed. With a deal made, I drove up where we pulled the flatbed and installed the truck bed. Okay cool. A couple days later I got the truck weighed again and lost 300 lbs. Not as much as I hoped but still better than nothing. Now with the camper I was at 8460 lbs. That gets us up to Aug 2024.

First bought the truck in Oct. 2021
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Removed the grill guard and installed new headlights.

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Pulled the flatbed off before realizing the truck was too wide.

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After picking up the Northstar TC800 camper

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Replacing the flatbed with a truck bed

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Camper on with new bed and currently how it looks.

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Parked in the driveway with the M1010 project.

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ExpoMike

Well-known member
Now that I am caught up to present day, this past weekend I installed a set of Bilstein 5160 shocks. The original stock ones still have gas pressure when I removed them (85K miles). I had these same Bilstein shocks on my '97 and loved them. It was a long day working by myself (first really big project since the knee replacement). I forgot that big trucks take big tools, which are heavy and tiring to use. It kicked my butt but I got it done.

Rear shocks (before and after)

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Front (just after, too tired to take before)

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I noticed I need new sway bar end link bushing.
 

ripperj

Explorer
That’s a nice setup, break it in yet? Should be a perfect match. I had a previous TC800 on my 2012 Ram 2500 and really thought it rode well. It was stock suspension except I also put Bilsteins on (not remote reservoir type)



I currently have a similar setup, but with older camper. It’s a 21 Ram 3500 crew cab longbed with a 2003 TC800.

The camper was real clean and all I did was redo the electrical. I installed a 200AH lifepo4 battery and swapped the electric out for a Blue Sea fuse block and Panel Tronics AC breaker panel( just a little 4 breaker job)

I stuck a Trelino composting toilet in the rear cubby and tested all the appliances ( the original and only other owner never used the furnace or water heater.)

It’s maiden voyage is Friday, 12 day trip from CT to Ny to pick up my buddy and his square drop trailer which will hold our kayaks and bikes. Then we camp and hike our way to Prince Edward Island.

Hope the weather is decent .


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ExpoMike

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We got out for an overnight trip at a local camp area, just to test it out. Biggest difference from when we had our last truck camper is, we both use CPAPs. The camp area we were at had electrical hookup, so we could run them without issue. I am looking to set it up with 200AH of LifePO4, solar and DC/DC charging. I am hoping to get a number of things done so we can get out this winter/spring.

Hope your trip goes well.

Here are a few camper pics from when we bought it. The previous owner pulled out the 3 way fridge and made it into storage. He put an Engel fridge where the rear seat cushion would be. I haven't decided it I am going to put a 12v compressor fridge back into the space. We love the north/south bed and not having to climb over each other, unlike our FWC Grandby we had. This mattress was comfortable, which could not be said about our last two rigs. Really surprised how much storage space this has.

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ripperj

Explorer
Glad it seems to be working out. Northstar is good at using most all empty space for storage.
I need to rip out my fridge also. I’m currently using my ARB that’s ratchet strapped to some eyebolts in the elevated floor in front of the couch. It works out well, but the ARB is a power hog. It won’t be a problem with the 200AH battery and the fact that I’ll be driving most days , the DC to DC charger works fantastically and
Can get the battery back to 100% really quickly.


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NorCalWannaBe

New member
How did you secure that slide in to your flatbed before you replaced it? I’m having a hard time tryna find that set up. I have a 2500 flatbed and just want to see how people secure it.

I really dig your set up tho. What made you not want the flatbed? Was it a practical choice?

I’m hoping to substitute a regular truck bed with truck tool boxes. Any opinions on that one way or the other?
 

ExpoMike

Well-known member
How did you secure that slide in to your flatbed before you replaced it? I’m having a hard time tryna find that set up. I have a 2500 flatbed and just want to see how people secure it.

I really dig your set up tho. What made you not want the flatbed? Was it a practical choice?

I’m hoping to substitute a regular truck bed with truck tool boxes. Any opinions on that one way or the other?
I used rated eye bolts mounted into the corners of the bed frame (steal part). Then I used rated turn buckles to attach the eye bolts to the camper, to tie it down. This was manly a temp solution to get it home from AZ to San Diego. I had to estimate everything, since I had to pre-setup stuff before driving over, since I wouldn't have any tools to fab up things when there.

As for swapping beds. The flatbed was a previous owner built one and it was very heavy. This camper ended up being heavier than expected and I was basically at GVWR without anything loaded for a trip. I really wanted to swap out to an aluminum flatbed but couldn't find a deal in the price I wanted to pay. Found a deal on the stock bed and the guy wanted the flatbed, so it made it easy as I didn't have to remove/store the flatbed. This cut 300 lbs off the total weight, so I had a little overhead to work with. Your idea of doing toolboxes down the sides of a flatbed is what I have wanted to do from day one. You can never have enough outside storage. Downside is, you will likely overload the rig because you will have all of that storage. The stock bed kinda keeps things in check. That is the one thing I like about newer 3/4 ton trucks, they have a GVRW closer to 10K lbs versus my Ram (and most trucks of that era) of 8800 lbs.

Good luck with your project.
 

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