2013 jk rubicon unlimited tire/suspension questions

Phoenix

Adventurer
Decide on a tire size and whether you want to run stock or flat fenders. With that info you can settle on a lift height. And from there, it really depends on what you want to use your JK for which lift you go with.

I've run 37's with flat fenders and a budget boost (took some trimming in the rear at the pinch seam). I've run both 35's and 37's with simple 2.5 inch lifts. I'm currently running coilovers set to about 3 inches of lift with 37's.

I get between 15 and 18 mpg in my 2012 with 37's. MPG is more tied to lift height than anything else. Same lift, with 35's, I got roughly the same MPG. Higher the lift, lower the MPG is a good solid rule of thumb.

If you settle on a budget boost, buy the cheapest you can find. They are all basically the same. You can run 33's with no chance of rubbing with a simple budget boost. 35's can be run with extended bumpstops. 37's can be run with flat fenders, a lot of trimming, and extended bumpstops.

From there, you're going to find tons and tons of options. Rock Krawler (despite the name), makes some excellent 2.5 inch lifts that work great for expedition type wheeling ranging from a basic spring lift to a mid-arm kit, to a full three link conversion that flexes like crazy. Personally, I'm not fond of their spring rates, but that's more personal choice than anything else (and it's actuall a statement I'd make about teraflex, rubicon express, pro comp, and most other lift manufacturers).

Teraflex also makes a ton of different lifts though I'm not at all fond of their control arms as I've blown out more of their bushings than I care to remember. I've also seen more than a few friends do the same. Hard to recommend one of their lifts based on that alone (assuming you actually intend to offroad your JK).

AEV is great, if you plan to stay primarily on the street or on easy trails. The brackets they use on their kits hang the body side mount of the control arm lower (which is great for geometry correction but terrible for ground clearance). Their lifts also don't flex to the same degree as those from Teraflex or Rock Krawler (in no small part due to their retention of the stock control arms). Again, which lift really depends on usage.

Personally? I'd go with a 3 inch Enforcer lift from Off Road Evolution. Run flat fenders if you want to run 37's. Run stock fenders if you want to stick with 33's or 35's (35's would be my personal choice if I was new and building a general all purpose rig that would see a lot of street miles). If you can afford it, spring for the King remote reservoir shocks (and if you can't, go with Rancho 9000's). Add in the EVO Draglink Flip Kit and you'll have a VERY solid kit that'll go anywhere you point your JK and will ride worlds better on the street. And if you want to upgrade control arms, I'd go with EVO, Currie, or Rokmen (by far, the best available today). I'm actually running the rear plushride springs from this kit on my JK presently (the 4 inch lift versions though given the weight of my JK it sits at about 3 to 3.5 inches higher than stock) and even my wife comments on how smooth my JK runs on the highway as compared to her Escalade.

Wheels? Take your pick. To beadlock or not to beadlock is not a question of DOT legality. Beadlocks are not illegal anywhere in the US and I challenge anyone to show me a statute that makes them so. It's simply urban legend that without the DOT sticker, they aren't legal on the street. I've run them on my daily driver for the last 3 years and have been pulled over in that time period in TX, CO, UT, NM, NV, OK, and AR and haven't gotten ticket number one. In fact, in most instances, the cop has asked if they were real beadlocks and then spent some time checking them out.

Go beadlocks only if you don't mind a bit of extra maintenance and intend to wheel in areas where airing down really matters. Otherwise stick with standard wheels. I have 2 JK's, mine runs beadlocks, my son's does not. We rarely run into instances where it matters.

What wheels to run is purely personal preference though keep in mind that lighter wheels (without sacrificing strength) have a lot of advantages and that generally lighter wheels are more expensive. Personally, I run AEV Pintlers on my daily driver and have a set of ATX slabs for pure off-roading, both are beadlocks (primary difference is the size of the lock ring, much larger on the ATX Slabs, and wheel strength, the ATX, though heavier, are substantially stronger). My other JK runs a set of inexpensive XD series wheels. Choose based on style and usage.

Tires? Wow, world of choices. Personally I'm fond of Nitto and Toyo, primarily because they have sidewalls that don't blow out and I tend to take my JK places that blow out sidewalls (I like to camp in out of the way places and see places that others have trouble getting to). I've also run the Goodyear MTR Kevlar's and while many hate them, I didn't have any bad experiences with them. Chose tires based on the type of terrain you'll be using your JK on. I run Nitto Trail Grappler's on both of mine presently and have no problem with them on the street and love them in the dirt.

A ton of great information here. From my experience, Teraflex has sagging and maintenance issues, AEV doesn't do enough to give you the clearance you may need. I'm a fan of Rock Krawler lifts as you can upgrade the lift over time and not have to spend money twice. Any lift kit that allows you to upgrade over time is my suggestion.

As far as tires, I've run 33s and 35s. Both have gotten me everywhere I wanted to go. That said, I like my 35s better, cause their bigger.
 

MT JK

New member
Decide on a tire size and whether you want to run stock or flat fenders. With that info you can settle on a lift height. And from there, it really depends on what you want to use your JK for which lift you go with.

I've run 37's with flat fenders and a budget boost (took some trimming in the rear at the pinch seam). I've run both 35's and 37's with simple 2.5 inch lifts. I'm currently running coilovers set to about 3 inches of lift with 37's.

I get between 15 and 18 mpg in my 2012 with 37's. MPG is more tied to lift height than anything else. Same lift, with 35's, I got roughly the same MPG. Higher the lift, lower the MPG is a good solid rule of thumb.

If you settle on a budget boost, buy the cheapest you can find. They are all basically the same. You can run 33's with no chance of rubbing with a simple budget boost. 35's can be run with extended bumpstops. 37's can be run with flat fenders, a lot of trimming, and extended bumpstops.

From there, you're going to find tons and tons of options. Rock Krawler (despite the name), makes some excellent 2.5 inch lifts that work great for expedition type wheeling ranging from a basic spring lift to a mid-arm kit, to a full three link conversion that flexes like crazy. Personally, I'm not fond of their spring rates, but that's more personal choice than anything else (and it's actuall a statement I'd make about teraflex, rubicon express, pro comp, and most other lift manufacturers).

Teraflex also makes a ton of different lifts though I'm not at all fond of their control arms as I've blown out more of their bushings than I care to remember. I've also seen more than a few friends do the same. Hard to recommend one of their lifts based on that alone (assuming you actually intend to offroad your JK).

AEV is great, if you plan to stay primarily on the street or on easy trails. The brackets they use on their kits hang the body side mount of the control arm lower (which is great for geometry correction but terrible for ground clearance). Their lifts also don't flex to the same degree as those from Teraflex or Rock Krawler (in no small part due to their retention of the stock control arms). Again, which lift really depends on usage.

Personally? I'd go with a 3 inch Enforcer lift from Off Road Evolution. Run flat fenders if you want to run 37's. Run stock fenders if you want to stick with 33's or 35's (35's would be my personal choice if I was new and building a general all purpose rig that would see a lot of street miles). If you can afford it, spring for the King remote reservoir shocks (and if you can't, go with Rancho 9000's). Add in the EVO Draglink Flip Kit and you'll have a VERY solid kit that'll go anywhere you point your JK and will ride worlds better on the street. And if you want to upgrade control arms, I'd go with EVO, Currie, or Rokmen (by far, the best available today). I'm actually running the rear plushride springs from this kit on my JK presently (the 4 inch lift versions though given the weight of my JK it sits at about 3 to 3.5 inches higher than stock) and even my wife comments on how smooth my JK runs on the highway as compared to her Escalade.

Wheels? Take your pick. To beadlock or not to beadlock is not a question of DOT legality. Beadlocks are not illegal anywhere in the US and I challenge anyone to show me a statute that makes them so. It's simply urban legend that without the DOT sticker, they aren't legal on the street. I've run them on my daily driver for the last 3 years and have been pulled over in that time period in TX, CO, UT, NM, NV, OK, and AR and haven't gotten ticket number one. In fact, in most instances, the cop has asked if they were real beadlocks and then spent some time checking them out.

Go beadlocks only if you don't mind a bit of extra maintenance and intend to wheel in areas where airing down really matters. Otherwise stick with standard wheels. I have 2 JK's, mine runs beadlocks, my son's does not. We rarely run into instances where it matters.

What wheels to run is purely personal preference though keep in mind that lighter wheels (without sacrificing strength) have a lot of advantages and that generally lighter wheels are more expensive. Personally, I run AEV Pintlers on my daily driver and have a set of ATX slabs for pure off-roading, both are beadlocks (primary difference is the size of the lock ring, much larger on the ATX Slabs, and wheel strength, the ATX, though heavier, are substantially stronger). My other JK runs a set of inexpensive XD series wheels. Choose based on style and usage.

Tires? Wow, world of choices. Personally I'm fond of Nitto and Toyo, primarily because they have sidewalls that don't blow out and I tend to take my JK places that blow out sidewalls (I like to camp in out of the way places and see places that others have trouble getting to). I've also run the Goodyear MTR Kevlar's and while many hate them, I didn't have any bad experiences with them. Chose tires based on the type of terrain you'll be using your JK on. I run Nitto Trail Grappler's on both of mine presently and have no problem with them on the street and love them in the dirt.

Agree with Brian above. One other add on I might suggest is if you want to start mild and go the budget boost route, you could definitely add a high quality shock like king later on which would provide a better ride and much more control on choppy dirt roads. This along with some basic armor, bumpers, wheels tires and winch could be achieved if you do the work yourself.
 

chadjodi

New member
I HAVE HEARD A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF GOOD THINGS ABOUT THE aev lifts. I guess I was thinking 35 inch tires that would be AT type treads. Do I need to be careful to choose a wheel with a certain offset? Ex are the AEV wheels combined with AEV 3.5 " and 35 inch AT type tires going to give good clearance with the stock Rubicon fender flares
 

daveh

Adventurer
You will have plenty of clearance with the AEV 3.5 and 35" tires on AEV wheels. You can run 35s with the AEV 2.5" lift. If you run stock wheels you will need spacers otherwise look for a wheel with specs similar to AEVs if you choose a different manufacturer.
 

shays4me

Willing Wanderer
IT HAS THE RUBICON AUTO 3.73 AND 4:1IN LOW 4X4
You have a fairly high gear for 35 inch tires. I'm sure it's been done a lot but you may want to find some cheap used ones and try them out on the road before spending the cash on a new set. I'd hate to shell out over a grand to find out my Jeep is now a dog. You do have a fairly low first gear and overdrive, so that will work to your advantage, but be careful.
 

kojackJKU

Autism Family Travellers!
I am running the teraflex leveling kit, Monroe reflex monotube shocks and 33" / 285 cooper st maxx tires. great setup on and off road. We use our jeep a lot up in the backcountry have love its performance with this setup.
 

Scooter Scott

Observer
I see there is a lot of AEV bandwagons here...yeah it's a good lift but IMO over-priced. There are a bunch of options out there to give you a good ride for a moderate price. Throughout the years I eventually ended up with Rock Krawler 2.5" coils and Rough Country 2.2 series shocks. About $150 invested in my suspension. I have good on road and off road capabilities and have went everywhere others with $1200 lifts have went. Capabilities rest in the hands of the driver.
 

Dave_g

New member
I think that AEV kits are a bit over priced for what you get. Teraflex Rockkrawler and Off Road Evolution all have excellent kits that are upgradeable. I feel AEV gets a lot of push on this fourm simply because expedition is in their name lol.

Edit: I am currently running the 2.5 Rockkrawler Max travel with 35" Nitto Mud Grapplers, and 4.53 gears. Not only can I explore almost any trail, I can dabble on the rocks.

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kojackJKU

Autism Family Travellers!
As I stated earlier, I love the performance of my setup, minimal cost for a great performing kit. I have yet to go anywhere where I needed more lift, I fit 285s which is a big tire on most any other vehicle. I had 285s on my F150 and they looked big compared to them on my JK. The only thing I would suggest is adding the 19/60 spring combo to the teraflex leveling kit for some extra cargo capacity. I am sticking with my stock bumpers so no weight penality there, added some skid plates just to protect the underside of my rig...engine trans/transfer case, evap can and diff covers for armour. much lighter than 2 bumpers, and better on fuel as well.
 
Having had a Rubicon express lift on my old tj I wanted a minimalist approach to suspension this time around and since AEV reuses many suspension components and I don't have to take those RE joints apart every two years for maintenance anymore! I went with the 3.5" lift and couldn't be happier for the kind of wheeling I do now. That is the point list out what you wan to do in the jeep and then build to the experience.
 

kojackJKU

Autism Family Travellers!
Having had a Rubicon express lift on my old tj I wanted a minimalist approach to suspension this time around and since AEV reuses many suspension components and I don't have to take those RE joints apart every two years for maintenance anymore! I went with the 3.5" lift and couldn't be happier for the kind of wheeling I do now. That is the point list out what you wan to do in the jeep and then build to the experience.

Yep, that makes a difference. That is the only flaw in my TF leveling kit. the swaybar link bushings. They wear pretty quick. But their customer service to me has been outstanding. I don't need anymore suspension that what I have. My jeep works perfect.
 

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