2014/15 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk vs 2015 Toyota 4Runner Trail edition
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These "this-or-that" postings always devolve to foolishness. These are two decent vehicles with different strengths and weaknesses. I prefer the cherokee because I am more prone to travel rugged fire roads than extreme rock crawling trails. I also prefer the cherokee because it is cheaper and gets better MPG.
I appreciate all of the input and don't care if a few small side arguments erupt because they keep the thread alive. 
At this point, we think the 4Runner Trail is a better fit for us as long as we can make the change. We will wait for the right 4Runner and a decent trade to occur before doing anything.
Thanks
At this point, we think the 4Runner Trail is a better fit for us as long as we can make the change. We will wait for the right 4Runner and a decent trade to occur before doing anything.
Thanks
Blind_Io
Adventurer
The problem was not expressing an opinion, it was the manner in which it was expressed. When trying to convince someone to agree with you or share an opinion, blanket generalizations and borderline racism rarely work. Others offered thoughtful analysis based on specific features, measurements, etc. All that you offered was the equivalent of, "All Japanese built vehicles are crap" (of course you included a dated racial slur and were significantly less articulate). You pointed to a single recall from a single company to support this sweeping claim before offering only anecdotal evidence of seeing old rusted Toyotas; an observation that has a high probability of being affected by confirmation bias.
Others rightfully called you out on these issues and refuted your half-baked claims with evidence to the contrary. Yes, you have the right to an opinion, but in the words of Douglas Adams, " All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others."
border line racism? excuse me? Please elaborate?
Japscrap? That has nothing to do with Japanese people but with where the originating company is and the type of vehicle. I am far from racist. The world has gone to hell in a hand basket. Or As I would like to call it, the pussification of America. No one can say anything in a joking manner without someone getting their undies in a massive knot. I have a big group of Asian friends, and guess what, they call Japanese cars "japscrap" too. I OWN Japanese cars as well, just not Toyota. I never was a fan and always thought they were over rated compared to other offerings. Again, they are built from sub par materials and lets not forget the flying Toyota syndrome. That was an awesome feature as well. Go with a Nissan if you want a Japanese Off road rig, NOT a Toy Yoda.
approximately 50 tacomas and now tundras in the rust yard is far from a anecdotal evidence. its a serious problem considering how many people are serviced by my local dealer.
Japscrap? That has nothing to do with Japanese people but with where the originating company is and the type of vehicle. I am far from racist. The world has gone to hell in a hand basket. Or As I would like to call it, the pussification of America. No one can say anything in a joking manner without someone getting their undies in a massive knot. I have a big group of Asian friends, and guess what, they call Japanese cars "japscrap" too. I OWN Japanese cars as well, just not Toyota. I never was a fan and always thought they were over rated compared to other offerings. Again, they are built from sub par materials and lets not forget the flying Toyota syndrome. That was an awesome feature as well. Go with a Nissan if you want a Japanese Off road rig, NOT a Toy Yoda.
approximately 50 tacomas and now tundras in the rust yard is far from a anecdotal evidence. its a serious problem considering how many people are serviced by my local dealer.
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JordanM/S
Off Road Enthusiast
Mitsubishi halted their Evo production to make way for new SUV designs and production. I have heard they are focussing all their might on SUVs resembling the Montero line. Focussing on rugged offroad capability. So if you wait a couple years you could get yourself a sweet new montero. Lol I kid, a guy can only dream!
I like the new trail hawk for looks, I wouldn't get it for off-roading, but for my daily driver though. My vote is 4runnet, but since you already have a TH I would just work with what you have. Why risk the financial strain of trading a new rig for a new rig
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I like the new trail hawk for looks, I wouldn't get it for off-roading, but for my daily driver though. My vote is 4runnet, but since you already have a TH I would just work with what you have. Why risk the financial strain of trading a new rig for a new rig
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Your use of this phrase is ironic as you, the smallest child on this forum (figuratively), seem to have the biggest wedgie. Also, if you Google "Anecdotal Evidence," you will find your information is the definition of anecdotal.
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toxicity_27
Adventurer
Since you already have the Trailhawk, why not do exactly as others are suggesting? Keep it, try it out to see if it works for what you have planned, and if it doesn't then look into a 4Runner. No sense in just going off what everyone including myself would do if you already have one of the vehicles and can test it out. If it does end up working for you then you just saved yourself time and money.
fowldarr
Explorer
Since you asked, I would choose the 4runner. But it us largely based on personal preference and brand loyalty. I have always had great experiences with toyotas, and I have no doubts the 4runner would have no trouble with the trip you propose. I am not familiar with the jeep. And have not driven one but based on the specs, I assume you would find its limitations much sooner.
Omar Brannstrom
Adventurer
I think Trailhawk and 4runner looks booring. I would go for a fun vehicle like Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
Seems like there are more toyo people in the jeep forum then jeep people. Toyota are good people carriers. A better comparison would be the GC to the 4runner.
I dont know if sales figures count, but looking at the 4runner vs the gc US sales figures in July 2014. The GC sold more than double than the 4runners did(also the wrangler sold more than the GC). I bet you probably 90 percent of those are people who dont go off-road. http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2014/08/usa-midsize-suv-crossover-sales-figures-july-2014-ytd.html
I dont know if people in the USA want a domestic car or what. Take on the Worlds sales figures and Jeep is just a drop in the bucket compared to toyo, mitsu, and nissan.
I dont know if sales figures count, but looking at the 4runner vs the gc US sales figures in July 2014. The GC sold more than double than the 4runners did(also the wrangler sold more than the GC). I bet you probably 90 percent of those are people who dont go off-road. http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2014/08/usa-midsize-suv-crossover-sales-figures-july-2014-ytd.html
I dont know if people in the USA want a domestic car or what. Take on the Worlds sales figures and Jeep is just a drop in the bucket compared to toyo, mitsu, and nissan.
Blind_Io
Adventurer
That would mean a whole new 4WD computer and sensor system, all new suspension geometry, and significant modifications to the unibody so you could mount all this without ripping it apart or flexing it like a wedge of warm cheese. Then you would have to open up the wheel wells to accommodate bigger tires and more travel. By the time you are done you will have spent more than you saved.
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