2014 Silverado Black Ops

Clutch

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The reason GM/Ford doesn't offer lifted trucks, but dealers do, is the insane liability that goes with them. If I had a dollar for everytime someone said "This F350 seemed designed for a leveling kit and 33-35" tires"......... Dodge can take risks with the Powerwagon and Bighorn. They're allready bankrupt, so who cares!

I would consider a Raptor a lifted factory vehicle.
 
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Clutch

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Ugh. Longtime Chevy and GMC owner but wish they would just design something like the Raptor. Give us real useable suspension travel and bigger wheel well openings, not a lift kit and 20"s.
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You can make it into like a Raptor, like this Tundra.

"100% bolt on 14.8" travel Tundra long travel kit with fox racing shox and eibach, world dual rate springs. 35% more travel than a Raptor! Complete Kit is $4800."
-Camburg


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CodyY

Explorer
http://www.mzoffroad.com/07-14-gm-mid-travel.html

Mazzulla for chevys
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colodak

Adventurer
couple dealers in my area sell new Chevy's with lifts, they also tack on a massive markup. $40,000 1/2 ton Silverado + $2,500 3" lift = $55,000 final price, and there are people who pay it.
 

rkj__

Adventurer
Ugh. Longtime Chevy and GMC owner but wish they would just design something like the Raptor. Give us real useable suspension travel and bigger wheel well openings, not a lift kit and 20"s.

Ford continues to dominate with real, useable off-road trucks. Chevy's new 2014 Z71 sits lower than a new 2WD F150.

When I went to test drive a 2014 Sierra, I communicated that to the salesman. He responded with "What's a Raptor?" And once I explained, he said something about "...for the masses."
 

Clutch

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What 2"? A raptor is nearly a foot wider than a stock F150 and handles quite well. Not really a fair comparison to the average aftermarket lift kit.

It is a factory modded truck though. The front A-Arms are different than a stock F150, yes?

Sure it isn't a 6" bracket lift, but I consider those more of a hinderance than an advantage.
 

Buliwyf

Viking with a Hammer
It is a factory modded truck though. The front A-Arms are different than a stock F150, yes?

Sure it isn't a 6" bracket lift, but I consider those more of a hinderance than an advantage.

The Raptor isn't modded. It's box stock and engineered to be the way it is. Ford has set it up well enough to be a fairly safe vehicle worthy of their nameplate. It's not really any more or less likely to traction roll (roll over) than regular F150 Fx4. IME at least.
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When a F150, F350 Superduty, or Dodge HD get a mild aftermarket lift from a dealer, those trucks get their ride height adjusted with no need to engineer anything else. I'm fine with that. If the only thing that changes is ride height, then the trucks tippiness and liability goes up substantially. Not a problem for us. But it could be a problem to the flatbillers.
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I've driven the Raptor, it handles well. So it's the exception to the rule. You can see clues throughout the Ford F350 Superduty chassis, that they wanted bigger tires. That they wanted taller suspension. But didn't due to liability. Ford has a dozen offroad Superduty prototypes that'll never see daylight. But they did succeed at making it ridiculously easy and cheap to put a lift kit on that truck with very good results usually. But it ain't no Raptor in the twisties. And if a Flatbiller screws up driving one of those......[squish].
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My point is, compared to a Raptor, a Ford Superduty with a quality 4-6" BDS lift, or a Dodge/GMC with a similar lift kit, has nowhere near that engineering or safety built in. At least not enough to please the beancounters who have to weight profit vs liability risk. Dodge is walking that line with the Powerwagon. So far it's working out for them.
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There's a dealer near me selling lifted GMC's. Really nice ones. I'll bet there's a waiver to sign.
 
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Larry

Bigassgas Explorer
There's a dealer near me selling lifted GMC's. Really nice ones. I'll bet there's a waiver to sign.

Actually it is not too bad, most of the brand new lifted trucks on dealers lots are through Dealer Services, which makes buying a brand new lifted truck easy plus it allows dealers to pass the buck on if there is an issue with the truck that can be tied back to the lift. Other lifted trucks on dealer’s are through conversion companies like Rocky Ridge, Southern Comfort, etc. Al Serra Chevrolet in Colorado Springs added ProComp lifts through Dealer Services to the last of their GMT900 trucks at no charge (so they say) Got to do something to get rid of those ugly ducklings to make room for the ‘14s.

I’m seriously considering a new Silverado 1500 next year and I don’t feel like throwing thousands at if after driving it off the lot nor waiting for years for it to roll out of warranty to start modifying it. I’ll definitely consider going the Dealer Services route and have the lift and tires rolled into the financing. With my GM Employee discount the lift and tires should come out to be a wash.
 

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