2016-2017 F150 4x4 EcoBoost - Real world experiences??

[eNVe]

The F150 Super Crew Lariat can be had with the 40/20/40 front bench. Most of the packages remove it in favor of the flow through console. Most dealers get the trucks with the packages because they sell better. The only way I could find the front bench was to order it that way, or hope someone else ordered it that way.

All of the trim levels above Lariat do not have the option of the front bench.

 

[jeep-N-montero]

I know they are a bit more money, but have you considered the EcoDeisel Ram 1500? A neighbor who had previously owned seven f150's and a die hard Ford guy recently traded in his 2014 f150 ecoboost for a 2018 EcoDiesel and has seen 31pmg highway and 18 mpg towing their 24 foot camp trailer. If I were in the market I would give them a serious look.

 

[Deleted member 9101]

I know they are a bit more money, but have you considered the EcoDeisel Ram 1500? A neighbor who had previously owned seven f150's and a die hard Ford guy recently traded in his 2014 f150 ecoboost for a 2018 EcoDiesel and has seen 31pmg highway and 18 mpg towing their 24 foot camp trailer. If I were in the market I would give them a serious look.

Unless you are towing damn near every day, the cost difference will never balance out.

 

[tacollie]

Unless you are towing damn near every day, the cost difference will never balance out.

I don't know. My buddy has 16' ecodiesel. I told him the math didn't work for a diesel like he thought. With the settlement check he is getting from FCA I had to eat my words ?

 

[D45]

Isn't the payload and towing actually pretty low on the Ecodiesel?

 

[tacollie]

Isn't the payload and towing actually pretty low on the Ecodiesel?

I my buddies 16' is around 1100. He bought it as a kid hauler. F150 owns the half ton market for payload.

 

[Deleted member 9101]

Isn't the payload and towing actually pretty low on the Ecodiesel?

Yep... You can get a 3.5 that's rated to haul and tow more ... For less money and a more inexpensive cost of ownership.

Our fleet manager where I work looked into both the Ram Ecodiesel and F150 diesel, the only way they paid off was if we were towing 3/4 of the time and even that was at the expense of performance.

 

[zuren]

I know they are a bit more money, but have you considered the EcoDeisel Ram 1500? A neighbor who had previously owned seven f150's and a die hard Ford guy recently traded in his 2014 f150 ecoboost for a 2018 EcoDiesel and has seen 31pmg highway and 18 mpg towing their 24 foot camp trailer. If I were in the market I would give them a serious look.

Unless you are towing damn near every day, the cost difference will never balance out.

I don't know. My buddy has 16' ecodiesel. I told him the math didn't work for a diesel like he thought. With the settlement check he is getting from FCA I had to eat my words ?

Isn't the payload and towing actually pretty low on the Ecodiesel?

I my buddies 16' is around 1100. He bought it as a kid hauler. F150 owns the half ton market for payload.

Yep... You can get a 3.5 that's rated to haul and tow more ... For less money and a more inexpensive cost of ownership.

Our fleet manager where I work looked into both the Ram Ecodiesel and F150 diesel, the only way they paid off was if we were towing 3/4 of the time and even that was at the expense of performance.

At one point in time I coveted the Ram EcoDiesel. But as mentioned, Ram was caught cheating on emissions (like VW did), there was the cost of maintenance, and there was some known issue (forget now) that they were not recalling and cost a lot to repair on the engine. For me, most of my driving is very local, that I've also read is death to a diesel; they need to be worked on the highway for long distance. I think for my purposes, a turbo gas engine will get me the fuel economy (low to mid-20s) and power that I want.

 

[Deleted member 9101]

I think for my purposes, a turbo gas engine will get me the fuel economy (low to mid-20s) and power that I want.

You'll have zero problem accomplishing either.

 

[Regcabguy]

At one point in time I coveted the Ram EcoDiesel. But as mentioned, Ram was caught cheating on emissions (like VW did), there was the cost of maintenance, and there was some known issue (forget now) that they were not recalling and cost a lot to repair on the engine. For me, most of my driving is very local, that I've also read is death to a diesel; they need to be worked on the highway for long distance. I think for my purposes, a turbo gas engine will get me the fuel economy (low to mid-20s) and power that I want.

You don't want to have to replace a turbo. Both are buried. I watched a truck show where one had gone out and they were replacing both with aftermarket upgrades. Not fun.

 

[Deleted member 9101]

You don't want to have to replace a turbo. Both are buried. I watched a truck show where one had gone out and they were replacing both with aftermarket upgrades. Not fun.

A. Its very rare that they fail.

B. It's not very difficult to replace them, you do most of it from under the truck.

 

[Buliwyf]

Turbos are cake.

Assuming that the aftermarket kits are engineered properly. Often, are not.

 

[deserteagle56]

You don't want to have to replace a turbo. Both are buried. I watched a truck show where one had gone out and they were replacing both with aftermarket upgrades. Not fun.

How often have you had to replace the turbo on your 2007 Dodge?

I've had Powerstrokes and am now on my second Dodge Cummins. Never had a turbo problem on any of them. So I'm not too worried about the turbos on my 3.5 Ecoboost.

 

[jmodz]

2 people have eluded to this fact in this thread already but I feel like it hasn’t been stated clearly enough. In 2017 the only engine available with the 10 speed was the 3.5 ecoboost. The 2.7 only came with the 6 speed until the 2018 model year. The reason you are finding only 6 speed with the 3.55 axle ratio is because those are most likely 2.7. The 3.5 with a 3.55 axle ratio did indeed come with a 10 speed for 2017, I know because I owned that exact truck.

 

[Deleted member 9101]

Turbos are cake.

Assuming that the aftermarket kits are engineered properly. Often, are not.

Dude... For about a grand you can get both turbos rebuilt and modified to push quite a bit more air.

They make some pretty gnarly ones for the 3.5 that can support some serious power.