2019 Ram Power Wagon
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Tex68w
Beach Bum
It's not as simple as "if it would do it better it would have one" but you are right, it's not going to happen and if it ever did, it would be at a price point that would eliminate a large portion of potential buyers.
marshal
Burrito Enthusiast
with as heavy as the truck is, the eco-diesel would melt itself trying to make any amount of usable horsepower - there just isnt a way that you can extract all the heat out of the rolling portions of that engine effectively enough to keep any form of reliability. the 5.0 Cummins is really the only option that would have a shot at working.
Tex68w
Beach Bum
LOL, alright buddy! There's more to it than that, but if you want to simplify it down to that then knock yourself out.
marshal
Burrito Enthusiast
i dont think its an issue of if a diesel can offroad better, its the issue of if the 6.7L can off-road better - which it cannot compared to the 6.4
TrailWhalePowerwagon
Member
the only issue is the nearly 1000 pound front biased additional weight.
there are plenty of reasons for a lighter weight diesel option, have you seen the way some people loadout their overland wagons?
theres rock climbing and mud slinging, then theres long distance overland with hours uphill or down.
two types of parties with baja boogie in the middle.
clearly weight is always a disadvantage, but mileage, low end torque, long distance is really a need in some regions.
there are plenty of reasons for a lighter weight diesel option, have you seen the way some people loadout their overland wagons?
theres rock climbing and mud slinging, then theres long distance overland with hours uphill or down.
two types of parties with baja boogie in the middle.
clearly weight is always a disadvantage, but mileage, low end torque, long distance is really a need in some regions.
TrailWhalePowerwagon
Member
ive really enjoyed this build and right now im on the verge of some final beef enhancements.
Ball joints
truss
37s
i really like Thurens truss and will most likely go that way.
Im super confused on ball joints. Ive narrowed down to EMF, CARLI, DYNATRAC.
Putting cost aside, i need the ball joint that will take the most abuse and wont wear itself to a point of vagueness too soon.
seems EMF and CARLI have great products for 2500 Rams but for some reason, not a whole lot of people talking about ball joints
out there.
then rotors/pads upon failure.
Ball joints
truss
37s
i really like Thurens truss and will most likely go that way.
Im super confused on ball joints. Ive narrowed down to EMF, CARLI, DYNATRAC.
Putting cost aside, i need the ball joint that will take the most abuse and wont wear itself to a point of vagueness too soon.
seems EMF and CARLI have great products for 2500 Rams but for some reason, not a whole lot of people talking about ball joints
out there.
then rotors/pads upon failure.
sdemarcus
Member
Tex68w, have you given any thought to the new Gladiator? Or maybe a 6.0 powerstroke build? I think either if those would fit your needs. 05-07 Superduty year range would be a sweet setup, their should be plenty of those sitting around your parts of Texas. I know they have their issues, but they can easily be worked out to make a great platform. Or the new Gladiator if you prefer a new truck. A Gladiator with a soft topper for the dogs, and endless source of modifications available for you to enjoy building. For the wife, a happy husband. If you can't decide... buy both. Then enjoy the best of both worlds until you see a trend leaning towards one truck or the other. Then keep both just incase you change your mind. That's how I approach being a "indecisive truck owner". I have owned 10 trucks in the past 4 years, I get your situation trust me. Now I own the Powerwagon for DD, and my 97 obs F250 Powerstroke for my "obsessive" need to build.
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MedicWill
New member
Is there? Because those are the words from the people who make the truck, Dodge.
Im sorry but you dont know more than a multi billion dollar company with more years and R&D in vehicles than you have years of life.
The Power Wagon is marketed and sold as THE most offroad capable truck you can buy with a warranty.
Im sorry if you think a diesel would be better, it wouldn't. Its proven, they dont make or sell one. If it was worth it, they would.
They are capitalists, dont forget their goal. Getting your money.
The Power Wagon is not made to haul, the numbers are right there when you buy it.
Pretty obvious a 2500 truck that has less capability than a stock 2500, has been modified for other goals.
Not towing.
Im sorry you are buying something sold as one thing, very clearly, yet you want it to be a different thing.
Thats on you, not Dodge.
Im sorry but you dont know more than a multi billion dollar company with more years and R&D in vehicles than you have years of life.
The Power Wagon is marketed and sold as THE most offroad capable truck you can buy with a warranty.
Im sorry if you think a diesel would be better, it wouldn't. Its proven, they dont make or sell one. If it was worth it, they would.
They are capitalists, dont forget their goal. Getting your money.
The Power Wagon is not made to haul, the numbers are right there when you buy it.
Pretty obvious a 2500 truck that has less capability than a stock 2500, has been modified for other goals.
Not towing.
Im sorry you are buying something sold as one thing, very clearly, yet you want it to be a different thing.
Thats on you, not Dodge.
I agree with you on the Duratracs. While I will concede there seems to be some correlation between factory Duratracs and pre mature wear (my old truck had 33K miles and needed new tires) they are one of the best tires for where I live. We see plenty of rain and snow in the winters. My current Power Wagon just got a new set of 35x12.5R17 Duratracs on it last week. Didn't need new tires yet (only at 12K) but I wanted to go a little bigger. I have heard that the factory compound wears faster and is more prone to punctures comparted to the tires you get through distributors but I have nothing to back that up.
As for the rest of the face lift I am not a fan of the interior changes but I definetly like the new headlights! I would be curious to see if they are a bolt on upgrade to the 2018's
marshal
Burrito Enthusiast
unsure of the wiring side of it, but in order to use them physically you will need the new hood, fenders, fascia, bumper, grille, new radiator support, and new headlight buckets. sounds like about $10,000 in new parts and body work.
or you could spend $1400 and buy the new Morimoto LED headlights
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chet6.7
Explorer
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Explorerinil
Observer
I’ll narrow it down further for you, carli or dynatrac ball joints. When mine fail I’ll go with carli. For brakes I usually run ebc, but i went with power stop towing package, it’s drilled and slotted rotors and a set of pads, stops awesome no brake dust.