2019 Tundra

[Clutch]

That is a nice-looking Tacoma. Set up is pretty nice. If that is all paid for, I would just keep it as-is and keep running it.

Not mine, but mine is setup exactly like that except the diesel engine swap. Don't know why I keep looking at everything, have a pretty decent setup right now, one of the reasons I thought about getting a car for a commuter, keep the truck...do a little refresh and only use as a dirt bike hauler/camper.

This was outside of Coeur d'aLene up above Hayden Lake back in September.

Not a bad view form the 'Nest

 

[bkg]

Yeah pretty slick, eh?

I really like my Wildernest...but it never fails, get all setup and have to go run and get something.

Might put windoors in it, if I ever do a full on restoration of it.

http://www.importperformanceusa.com/project/2004-expedition-tacoma-with-1kz/

That is very nice...

 

[2004 lb7]

Too funny! You can’t put a plow on a f 150!! Or a Ram!! I use my truck for work and play. I keep my trucks for the long run. I’m more worried about long term reliability. My F 450 7.3 has had turbo, injectors, glow plugs among other things over the last 315,000 miles. Kinda negates the fuel savings in my book. If I lose 2 or 3 mpg and don’t have repairs for 300,000 it works out cheaper for me.

 

[Clutch]

That is very nice...

Pretty slick, eh?

All mine needs a diesel swap, that shop isn't too far from us...of course, I could probably do a couple few 3.4 engine rebuilds before it even came close to the price of the swap.

 

[haven]

Feb 8 is announcement day at the Chicago Auto Show. The 2019 Tundra TRD Pro will have taller front springs and softer rear springs to increase articulation, matched with Fox shocks. Not exactly Raptor-esque, but an improvement. The news I'm looking for is the cargo capacity. Previous models of TRD Pro had double the capacity of Raptor, a real-world advantage.

2019 TRD Pro will get a new color (medium blue) and some unique interior trim pieces. All Tundras get an increase in active safety features.

 

[Adventurous]

"Supposedly?" Some of the marketing literature put out by OEM's needs to be taken with a grain of salt. You do not design a flexy frame for better ride compliance; you re-tune the suspension. Any OEM which claims the opposite needs to be viewed with skepticism.

The Tacoma is a sturdy truck, to include it's frame. But it is beyond argument that the Tacoma's lowered payload rating compared to the Hilux is due in part to differences in frame construction. You can't just slap on a different suspension and expect the Tacoma to have the same OEM-spec'd ratings as a Hilux. I know that some North American overlanders do that, but it's not the same as an OEM-engineered payload rating.

Right? I can never figure out how intentionally designing flexibility (at least to the degree exhibited by the Tacoma) into the frame as opposed to the suspension could be construed as a positive.

IMO, make the truck a truck and nudge those seeking a comfortable ride into a more appropriate vehicle.

 

[Dalko43]

Feb 8 is announcement day at the Chicago Auto Show. The 2019 Tundra TRD Pro will have taller front springs and softer rear springs to increase articulation, matched with Fox shocks. Not exactly Raptor-esque, but an improvement. The news I'm looking for is the cargo capacity. Previous models of TRD Pro had double the capacity of Raptor, a real-world advantage.

2019 TRD Pro will get a new color (medium blue) and some unique interior trim pieces. All Tundras get an increase in active safety features.

I really hope Toyota makes some substantial changes to the Tundra's underlying platform and powertrain rather than just add a few gadgets and dress it up with a fancy interior.

Toyota North America has been using the same basic design for +10 years for the Tundra. The 4runner's engine and transmission has been in use for ~16 years. They need to update their powertrains for better efficiency and they need to update the chassis (at least for the Tacoma and Tundra) for towing/payload performance; I could care less if they make a Raptor competitor.

 

[rruff]

The news I’m looking for is the cargo capacity. Previous models of TRD Pro had double the capacity of Raptor, a real-world advantage.

If they make the rear springs softer, cargo capacity will decline.

 

[phsycle]

I really hope Toyota makes some substantial changes to the Tundra's underlying platform and powertrain rather than just add a few gadgets and dress it up with a fancy interior.

Toyota North America has been using the same basic design for +10 years for the Tundra. The 4runner's engine and transmission has been in use for ~16 years. They need to update their powertrains for better efficiency and they need to update the chassis (at least for the Tacoma and Tundra) for towing/payload performance; I could care less if they make a Raptor competitor.

With how the sales are for both Tundra and Tacoma, they don't have a lot of incentive to change things up. But, hopefully they'll have enough foresight to throw a few dollars at R&D and show at least some signs they're continuing to innovate.

 

[phsycle]

If they make the rear springs softer, cargo capacity will decline.

Agreed. Also, I didn't know the TRD Pro had DOUBLE the capacity of the Raptor? I don't think that's true.

 

[rruff]

I really hope Toyota makes some substantial changes to the Tundra's underlying platform and powertrain rather than just add a few gadgets and dress it up with a fancy interior.

Not this year. I suspect when the changes do come, it will be a mixed bag. Higher cost, greater complexity, reduced reliability and longevity, a little more efficient. Hybrids probably make more sense for Toyota than anything else.

 

[bkg]

just read the announcement.

it reads almost identical to the original TRD Pro announcement. 1" lift, more travel, 1" wider track, accent colors, etc...

In other words... the only real difference is the brand of shocks. The rest appears to be just marketing fluff...

 

[Clutch]

just read the announcement.

it reads almost identical to the original TRD Pro announcement. 1" lift, more travel, 1" wider track, accent colors, etc...

In other words... the only real difference is the brand of shocks. The rest appears to be just marketing fluff...

Did I call it or what?

I really hope Toyota makes some substantial changes to the Tundra's underlying platform and powertrain rather than just add a few gadgets and dress it up with a fancy interior.

Toyota North America has been using the same basic design for +10 years for the Tundra. The 4runner's engine and transmission has been in use for ~16 years. They need to update their powertrains for better efficiency and they need to update the chassis (at least for the Tacoma and Tundra) for towing/payload performance; I could care less if they make a Raptor competitor.

Don't hold your breath.

Yeah, I don't care about a Ranger Raptor competitor as would rather see a no frills basic model, but gotta admit the RR is pretty dang bad-********.

With how the sales are for both Tundra and Tacoma, they don't have a lot of incentive to change things up. But, hopefully they'll have enough foresight to throw a few dollars at R&D and show at least some signs they're continuing to innovate.

I am amazed they are selling them in the numbers that they do, though in this day-in-age of internet hype and mob mentality it is not surprising.

Just not that impressed with the 3rd Gen for some reason. About the only thing I like on it is the interior.

 

[bkg]

With how the sales are for both Tundra and Tacoma, they don't have a lot of incentive to change things up. But, hopefully they'll have enough foresight to throw a few dollars at R&D and show at least some signs they're continuing to innovate.

has the Sequoia been updated yet? I know in '15 it was still the exact vehicle it was in '08. I had heard rumors of updates, but last dealer drive-by, I didn't see anything.

You're right, though... why invest if people keep buying. My question is... "why do people keep buying - at a price premium - a vehicle that hasn't changed in (in some cases) a decade?"

 

[bkg]

Did I call it or what?

I am amazed they are selling them in the numbers that they do, though in this day-in-age of internet hype and mob mentality it is not surprising.

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yup... on both of these items, nailed it.