2021 EarthCruiser Terranova; Idaho; Price Drop to $270K or Reasonable Offer

Travler229

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Hello, Travler229. Nice listing.

Is that a crawl through I see?
Yes, the TerraNovas have a crawl through. It’s possible for full grown adults to “crawl through” though it is not particularly convenient. the connection between the house and the cab is a seriously thick rubber accordian grommet ( I am sure there is a technical term). I think in addition to providing access, it’s main function is to allow the house to flex separately from the cab to prevent a lot of the stress and fractures that other setups experience.
 

Travler229

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This great vehicle is still for sale. We've met some wonderful folks ranging from "kicking the tires" to very serious until a life changing situation developed. As a self contained, fully functional off-grid habitat with fantastic off-road capability, we know the next owners are out there somewhere. Please show yourselves! :)
 

Travler229

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Adding a picture of our door sticker to address comments on BaT auction for a different vehicle
 

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Wakeup2river

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Adding a picture of our door sticker to address comments on BaT auction for a different vehicle

To be fair to members considering your truck you need to post the FORD GVWR sticker. The Ford GVWR decal is the only one that matters, not something EC came up with.
 
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ExpoMike

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To be fair to members considering your truck you need to post the FORD GVWR sticker. The Ford GVWR decal is the only one that matters, not something EC came up with.
Actually, if this was purchased as an "incomplete" vehicle, i.e. cab and chassis, since Earthcruiser was a legit motor home manufacturer, they can legally up the GVWR to what they have legally submitted for. They had to submit to DOT for approval. It's not likely they took a stock pickup and removed the bed, added a fixed camper and then slapped a sticker on it. This is the same way ambulances are done. The ambo manufactures buy the cab and chassis as "incomplete" vehicles and then put their own manufacturer spec GVWR sticker, that is DOT approved.
 

Wakeup2river

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Actually, if this was purchased as an "incomplete" vehicle, i.e. cab and chassis, since Earthcruiser was a legit motor home manufacturer, they can legally up the GVWR to what they have legally submitted for. They had to submit to DOT for approval. It's not likely they took a stock pickup and removed the bed, added a fixed camper and then slapped a sticker on it. This is the same way ambulances are done. The ambo manufactures buy the cab and chassis as "incomplete" vehicles and then put their own manufacturer spec GVWR sticker, that is DOT approved.

I believe you are mistaken.
Unfitters do not need approval by DOT. If they are willing to take legal responsibility they can slap whatever number on there they want. Its up to them if they really did in fact work with the OEM on reengineering the vehicle and did all the extensive retesting to meet FMVSS.

So what did EC do besides a lift that made the brakes, frame, axles, steering etc. able to support over 1/2 a ton more than the max of any OEM F350 single wheel Vehicle? With EC gone who holds liability for claiming its a 13,000 lb GVWR.


FROM NETA
In a Jan. 3, 1972 interpretation to the NTEA (then known as the Truck Equipment Body Distributors Association), the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration provides the following guidance: “The information supplied to the final-stage manufacturer by the incomplete vehicle manufacturer under Part 568 is to assist the final-stage manufacturer in completing the vehicle in conformity with the standards, and certifying in conformity with Part 567. There are no requirements, however, as to how the final-stage manufacturer uses this information.

“If they wish to take on the responsibility of changing the ratings in either direction, or to disregard the conformity information, that is their right. Of course, they will be assuming legal responsibility for whatever changes they make, as indicated by the facts of the particular situation and the information contained in the incomplete vehicle document. Similarly, they have the right to make whatever physical changes they wish to the chassis, and as such assume the normal responsibilities of a manufacturer in doing so including the responsibilities for the FMVSS standards affected by the changes.
 

Travler229

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Lance @ EC actually addresses this issue in another thread:
which includes videos explaining the process, and describes that EC was certified as a final stage manufacturer and sent the vehicles to outside assessors to pass final stage brake tests etc. he also explains the difference between building on top of an incomplete vehicle versus modifying a complete vehicle:

"All manufacturers have very clear body builder guides to changes to specific chassis, some, can not be changed.
When starting a scope of work say for the Terra Nova Info arrives in CAD file through a portal of some kind. We build the truck and return the file. In particular they want to know how its attached and what is the weight distribution. Its all about weight, and where it is.

Working with in there parameters we design so chassis modifications will not be required by them for our application of there chassis.
Only wheels - tyres - suspension.
Retest of the vehicle ( normally a third part but we have the qualifications) and it is completed as a EarthCruiser TerraNova. Its not a "truck camper" its a vehicle model made by EarthCruiser that now enjoys the protection of the Federal systems as any other new vehicle.

As a side note -
The two more difficult tests to pass ( there are hundreds) is brake failure and lane change.
"
 

Wakeup2river

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Good info, but doesn't it say any specifics as he usually doesn't. They admit to only modifying the truck with a lift, tires and wheels and then they decide it can now carry 1,200 lbs more than Ford says?

What ever. My experience trying to buy a preowned, lol so call certified EC, was the biggest BS circus Ive ever experienced.

We all run over gvwr at times, your truck is awesome good luck with the sale.
 
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ReluctantTraveler

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Good info, but doesn't it say any specifics as he usually doesn't. They admit to only modifying the truck with a lift, tires and wheels and then they decide it can now carry 1,200 lbs more than Ford says?

What ever. My experience trying to buy a preowned, lol so call certified EC, was the biggest BS circus Ive ever experienced.

We all run over gvwr at times, your truck is awesome good luck with the sale.
They actually have to go through a battery of tests that the DOT then approves. Go read the thread dude.
 

Wakeup2river

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They actually have to go through a battery of tests that the DOT then approves. Go read the thread dude.
Not true at all.

LOl and with Obamacare you get to keep your doctor. A master of oratorical skills"

Like I said, what ever, nice truck someone will be happy with it.
 
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ReluctantTraveler

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Not true at all.
From Lance…


Working with in there parameters we design so chassis modifications will not be required by them for our application of there chassis.
Only wheels - tyres - suspension.
Retest of the vehicle ( normally a third part but we have the qualifications) and it is completed as a EarthCruiser TerraNova. Its not a "truck camper" its a vehicle model made by EarthCruiser that now enjoys the protection of the Federal systems as any other new vehicle.

As a side note -
The two more difficult tests to pass ( there are hundreds) is brake failure and lane change. Trucks that are to tall or have weight to high or in the wrong place really struggle to pass the sudden brake failure (all braking wheels are disabled in turn) thus forcing a high speed swerve in all directions. Its a interesting ride.
The lane change test brakes are not allowed to be activated, trucks pitch or roll out side of OEM - fail.”
 

Travler229

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Good info, but doesn't it say any specifics as he usually doesn't. They admit to only modifying the truck with a lift, tires and wheels and then they decide it can now carry 1,200 lbs more than Ford says?

What ever. My experience trying to buy a preowned, lol so call certified EC, was the biggest BS circus Ive ever experienced.

We all run over gvwr at times, your truck is awesome good luck with the sale.
Sorry you had a fiasco with EC. We found their business sense to be a bit lacking, but their engineering capability to be strong. Appreciate the good wishes.
 

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