4.88 vs. 4.56 in a 2006

tacollie

Glamper
There are a lot of hills and with a head wind(both ways) I got 11mpg. I have an auto, 255/85r16s, lots of weight, and the flippac sticks up. I did 70-75 the whole way. I tried to run the cruise but it spent a lot of time in 3rd at 4500rpms. With 33s the stock 3.73s and auto tranny just arn't a good combo in my opinion. AT 75 in 5th I am at 2100-2200 rpms and have no pull
 

heeltoe989

Explorer
tacollie said:
There are a lot of hills and with a head wind(both ways) I got 11mpg. I have an auto, 255/85r16s, lots of weight, and the flippac sticks up. I did 70-75 the whole way. I tried to run the cruise but it spent a lot of time in 3rd at 4500rpms. With 33s the stock 3.73s and auto tranny just arn't a good combo in my opinion. AT 75 in 5th I am at 2100-2200 rpms and have no pull

yup, sounds like the way I used to be. I hated it!
 

mr.trd

Adventurer
heeltoe989 said:
I have the SC and I run 456 with 285.70.17 on Walkers. I find the 456 gears with the extra 100hp is plenty of gear for everything. I cruise at 70mph on the highway and sit at 2500 rpm, no gear changes on most hills around here, lots of power for the trailer and trail.

I have 285/70R17's now, but want to go to a 305/70R17. Do you think the 4.88's would be too low until I went to bigger tire or do you think the 4.56's would be just fine with both tire sizes?
 

heeltoe989

Explorer
mr.trd said:
I have 285/70R17's now, but want to go to a 305/70R17. Do you think the 4.88's would be too low until I went to bigger tire or do you think the 4.56's would be just fine with both tire sizes?

I think the 456 would be fine for both. Thats the size I'm thinking of going to next. I like my 456 gears good on the highway and good wheeling too. I don't think there is much difference in RPM between 456 and 488, I think its only about 150 to 200 rpm, but it can make a difference on the highway. the 4.0 lacks in the HP department for heavy loading and highway running. The Tacoma should have come with a 300hp V8, not a 205HP at the rear wheels V6. My truck at 290hp at the rear wheels is now the way it should have come from the factory.

My wife's new Rav4 has 270hp???? Go figure? What the hell was Toyota thinking with this V6
 

mr.trd

Adventurer
Cool thanks man.... If you want to see some pics of the old DR taco with 305's on it, PM me your email and I can forward you the email Jeremy just sent me with pics of their old DR truck with 305/70R17 MT/R's on it. I like!
 

Redline

Likes to Drive and Ride
I think you are great candidate for 4.88s. I had the same annoying tranny kick-down from overdrive to direct on the slightest grades with the stock 3.73s and (tall) 255/85R16 tires. With my 4.88s I can usually maintain freeway speeds without loosing overdrive unless I have cruise control on (which kicks-down too easy). Although cruise control is still too quick to down shift the tranny, I find I can use cruise much more than I did before because the propensity to downshift on grades is greatly reduced. On one long freeway grade approaching my house, the car actually prefers to be spinning a bit faster, about 70, to easily keep the tranny locked-up in 5th. I’m not sure the engine would be spinning fast enough at 65-70 with 4.56s?

I think you might be satisfied with 4.56s, but since you are thinking about bigger tires in the future I would really lean toward 4.88s. Although I had some hesitation at first, when it comes to mountain driving, and particularly towing, lower gears are just generally much better. Since gearing essentially multiplies torque, we have to ask ourselves, wouldn't we like a little more torque?

I plan to post some additional details in a future post, but because my F350 was broken this past autumn I towed my big, heavy travel trailer to a couple hunting camps (30-ft & 7,500-lb). Of course I do have the little V8 in my 4Runner and it is rated to tow 7,000-lbs but I can't imagine being happy pulling that much weight with the stock 3.73s! Let me just say that my hunting partner who was pulling a smaller/lighter trailer with his 2006 Dodge/Cummins was impressed.

Either way, gearing down is very good :)

mr.trd said:
I might, but even as it is, I usually never drive over 65, just cause any faster and the truck is shifting constantly. Every little incline and every breeze and it kicks down, so I just drive slow. And I use premium fuel, with regular or mid-grade, it is even worse. But the one question that is still getting me, is that I do want to s/c it someday, so with that, would the 4.88's be too low?
 

heeltoe989

Explorer
Redline said:
I think you are great candidate for 4.88s. I had the same annoying tranny kick-down from overdrive to direct on the slightest grades with the stock 3.73s and (tall) 255/85R16 tires. With my 4.88s I can usually maintain freeway speeds without loosing overdrive unless I have cruise control on (which kicks-down too easy). Although cruise control is still too quick to down shift the tranny, I find I can use cruise much more than I did before because the propensity to downshift on grades is greatly reduced. On one long freeway grade approaching my house, the car actually prefers to be spinning a bit faster, about 70, to easily keep the tranny locked-up in 5th. I’m not sure the engine would be spinning fast enough at 65-70 with 4.56s?

I think you might be satisfied with 4.56s, but since you are thinking about bigger tires in the future I would really lean toward 4.88s. Although I had some hesitation at first, when it comes to mountain driving, and particularly towing, lower gears are just generally much better. Since gearing essentially multiplies torque, we have to ask ourselves, wouldn't we like a little more torque?

I plan to post some additional details in a future post, but because my F350 was broken this past autumn I towed my big, heavy travel trailer to a couple hunting camps (30-ft & 7,500-lb). Of course I do have the little V8 in my 4Runner and it is rated to tow 7,000-lbs but I can't imagine being happy pulling that much weight with the stock 3.73s! Let me just say that my hunting partner who was pulling a smaller/lighter trailer with his 2006 Dodge/Cummins was impressed.

Either way, gearing down is very good :)

456 at 65 to 70mph is 2370 to 2540rpm. I haven't had any issues pulling my trailer and I still have a bit of top end to spare on the highway which I really like.

but yes either way gear down is the way to go!
 

heeltoe989

Explorer
tacollie said:
With a SC I would go 4.56 for sure. For me 4.88s seem better. But 35s would also be in the future.

4.88 if you going to 35" later on.

456 with 35 inch bring you just about back to stock gearing with stock tires
 

mr.trd

Adventurer
But wouldn't factory gearing and factory tire size and a supercharger still be pretty damn nice?:av-7:
 

heeltoe989

Explorer
mr.trd said:
But wouldn't factory gearing and factory tire size and a supercharger still be pretty damn nice?:av-7:

yup would still be very nice indeed!! I think my truck is pretty fast now for the size of truck, never mind going back to stock weight!
 

Redline

Likes to Drive and Ride
I'm usually up around 5,000-ft., but over Christmas was down at Sea Level in the Mall Crawler. I put the pedal down a bit further than usual starting from a stop (1st gear) and boy did my little 4Runner take-off with 4.88s and all that air :)
 

mr.trd

Adventurer
Hell Yeah, when I went back home to North Dakota to visit my parents over the 4th of july last summer, hot damn I thought someone put a charger on my truck while I drove up there.... And that was with factory gears and 285's.
 

tacollie

Glamper
I should clearify I was very disipointed with stock gearing. The truck really seemed to drag up some passes imo. I could hardly drop my buddy in his stock 3.0 92 Toyota pickup. Like I said for me 4.88s seemed better. If I was going to sc I wouldn't even consider 4.88s or if I had a manual.
 

heeltoe989

Explorer
tacollie said:
I should clearify I was very disipointed with stock gearing. The truck really seemed to drag up some passes imo. I could hardly drop my buddy in his stock 3.0 92 Toyota pickup. Like I said for me 4.88s seemed better. If I was going to sc I wouldn't even consider 4.88s or if I had a manual.

SC+456 = a whole lotta get up and go, in any gear.
 

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