4m50 performance upgrades?

boostin

Adventurer
Hey guys looking for some input based upon expierence..looking to get some more power from me Fe180 any ideas?

Don't want to effect longevity to much but just free up some power

Exhaust I assume? What size? What muffler?

More boost?

Larger turbo?
 

SkiFreak

Crazy Person
My FG84 has a 4M50 engine.
I changed the exhaust from the OEM 2 1/4" to 3" and used a free flow muffler. I also replaced the OEM exhaust brake with a 3" one.
The most noticeable improvement in power was the addition of a Steinbauer chip, which is like giving it an extra gear when going up hills. I have my Steinbauer wired to a switch, so it is very easy to show what difference it makes.
Unfortunately, i do not have easy access to a dyno, so I did not have the opportunity to do a before and after. Having said that, I have been in a stock FG84 and mine and there is a noticeable difference.
 

SkiFreak

Crazy Person
The exhaust brake is off an Isuzu. It was a pretty simple swap over as most of the fitting points were identical.
You can see what I did here...

The Steinbauer chip for the 4M50 was not released in the US, as far as I know. You can get them from Steinbauer distributors in Australia, should you be motivated to do so.
I would suggest that you PM Alan, as he did this for Westyss (who has a FG140 in Canada)
Here is a link to the Australian Steinbauer listing of the chip.
 

boostin

Adventurer
Any idea what isuzu model that is from?


Also from your link I noticed that was for the fg 4m50... Wonder if that would work on the fe since they have a different horse power rating to start with
 

SkiFreak

Crazy Person
My 3" exhaust brake is off an Isuzu FVR33, 1996 - 2000, with a sitec 6hh1-s engine.

As for the compatibility of this Steinbauer chip on an FE.... well, I think you would be best off asking Steinbauer that question. I'd just send the Australian branch an email and ask them. As far as I know, they are the guys that did the mapping for the FG.
 

boostin

Adventurer
Yah the chip is a little out of budget for now any ways

I do see the exhaust happening though..would you say it was enough difference to justify the cost?
 

SkiFreak

Crazy Person
Technically, getting more horsepower out of a diesel engine is not rocket science; give it more fuel and let it breathe better; but I am guessing that you already know that.
Was it worth the effort and cost to change from a 2 1/4" to 3" exhaust system? To be honest, I really don't know, but power was not my primary reason for doing the modification on my truck.

I needed to reroute the exhaust in order to have the layout of equipment I wanted between the chassis rails, so the OEM exhaust had to be replaced anyway. The cost differential between replacing the exhaust with 2 14" compared with 3" was minor. The only real addition to cost was the 3" exhaust brake itself, which I got for under $300 (new).

Did I have more power after simply replacing the exhaust? I expect so, but as I said, I did not do any before and after testing, so it is difficult to quantify that.
You also asked if the full flow muffler made the truck louder. I think a little bit, but it's not significantly louder. Again, I did no before and after readings, so I cannot give you any decibel comparison readings.
 

boostin

Adventurer
Only reason I ask is I live in Alberta Canada where every dodge diesel has 5"exhaust and so loud you can't even think..


I wonder if bigger then three would make a difference

Maybe four?
 

SkiFreak

Crazy Person
One thing that I did not do was to replace the manifold post turbo. This means that the connection point for the exhaust is still 2 1/4", not 3". There is a very short cone section (about 3" long) that goes from 2 1/4" to 3", so my system is not a "true" 3" system, as there is still a small bottle neck at the end of the exhaust manifold.
To build a true 3" or 4" system you would need to custom manufacture a new manifold at the back of the turbo and waste gate.

As I mentioned, I did not really do my exhaust upgrade for power, rather because I had to in order to make my design layout work. I could not justify the additional time and effort to build a new manifold section, so I didn't.
The chip on the other hand was added purely for extra power. :)
 

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